SCW mosin in wartime stock?
SCW mosin in wartime stock?
Is it unusual for a SCW mosin to be in a wartime stock? I dont know much about the SCW or about what happened to the mosins after the war was over...Anyone shed a little light? thanks!
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
It has been bubba'ed, war time stocks didn't appear until 42, and the Spanish didn't receive any rifles from Russia after early 1938
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The Soviet union supplied arms through 1937, therefore any parts from a rifle later than that will not be original and put on here in the US. Remember these rifles have been here in the US for over 50 years so the likelihood of being repaired with later parts is high.
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Lots of them had their stocks sporterized, somone probably replaced it. That's IF really an SCW rifle to begin with.
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With no import mark, brass hand gaurd caps, wire rear sling hanger, and no pins on the rear sight could it still be a garden variety mosin or would it lean to SCW?
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
With the stock being incorrect, I'd likely count out the hand guard as well though it would really depend. What year is the barrel on the rifle? Certain years have a much higher likelihood, especially within certain serial ranges. No extra pin in the rear sight could be SCW or it could just as easily be a Finn captured or even one the Russians missed during refurb. The sling hangers could be a good indicator, it just depends on what they look like. A number of different countries used hangers.
If you've got photos, they'd help quite a bit in the identification..
If you've got photos, they'd help quite a bit in the identification..
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I took a chance on it because the price was ok. You cant get it right every time I guess...try not to beat up on me too bad...
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
The action could be of SCW lineage, the S/Nis in the range, the sling hangers could also be Balkan, which would better explain the stock on that rifle.
But at the end of the Day it just screams of stock replacement stateside.
But at the end of the Day it just screams of stock replacement stateside.
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I think someone stuck a balkan stock on it. Do you have a picture of the rear top of the receiver? The receiver is a stepped tang one, I'm guessing the stock is inletted for an unstepped one. There would be a gap between wood and the receiver if thats so.
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I appreciate you guys taking the time to look this one over. Thanks!
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
So even if the serial number is within the scw range it may have not gone to Spain?
I think it very interesting that it has the right rear sight to be scw, it has no import mark and it got here before the import rules went into effect in the 60's like the scw rifles did. Its the only mosin that I have that has no import mark. I was sure hoping that meant scw...
Can I ask about the balkin stock? How can you tell? I was thinking after you guys mentioned it that the rear sling hanger was probably taken off the original stock and put on the replacement...just a thought.
I think it very interesting that it has the right rear sight to be scw, it has no import mark and it got here before the import rules went into effect in the 60's like the scw rifles did. Its the only mosin that I have that has no import mark. I was sure hoping that meant scw...
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Can I ask about the balkin stock? How can you tell? I was thinking after you guys mentioned it that the rear sling hanger was probably taken off the original stock and put on the replacement...just a thought.
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
It could very well be SCW, just one with the stock replaced. The Romanian/balkan imports included well used 91/30s though most I've seen were refurbed before that heavy use. Some of the mosins had wire hangers or it could have been switched over like you said.
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NLMosin wrote:So even if the serial number is within the scw range it may have not gone to Spain?
I think it very interesting that it has the right rear sight to be scw, it has no import mark and it got here before the import rules went into effect in the 60's like the scw rifles did. Its the only mosin that I have that has no import mark. I was sure hoping that meant scw...![]()
Nobody is saying the action isn't possibly from A SCW rifle, it may well be even though there is nothing to nail it down 100%. That said the stock is definitely NOT the original stock to that rifle and is definitely NOT from any SCW rifle since that type of stock went into production in late 41/early 42. The SCW ended in 1939 and Spain never purchased any MN rifles or parts post SCW.
The stock was swapped out stateside for reasons unkown.
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Thanks Miller Tyme.Miller Tyme wrote:
Nobody is saying the action isn't possibly from A SCW rifle, it may well be even though there is nothing to nail it down 100%. That said the stock is definitely NOT the original stock to that rifle and is definitely NOT from any SCW rifle since that type of stock went into production in late 41/early 42. The SCW ended in 1939 and Spain never purchased any MN rifles or parts post SCW.
The stock was swapped out stateside for reasons unkown.
If there is no "Made in USSR" on the action would that definetly rule out SCW? I am just wondering if its something I want to keep in my collection or pass it on...
Thanks racerguy00.racerguy00 wrote:It could very well be SCW, just one with the stock replaced. The Romanian/balkan imports included well used 91/30s though most I've seen were refurbed before that heavy use. Some of the mosins had wire hangers or it could have been switched over like you said.
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
It appears that the majority of SCW do not have the made in ussr stamp.
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Wise words...At some point though I will be trading up some of the more common ones for the harder to find ones...that's why I ask so many questions...Lee-online wrote:
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
I have seen a lot SCW mosins including some in Spanish made stocks etc that had no USSR stamp. It seems only a portion were marked. Also check the wood where the rear tang sits and if there's an arsenal and date impression from another rifle there.
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No impression there but that would have been a great piece of sleuthing if it panned out!
This one is covered with markings all over...
This one is covered with markings all over...
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
I have noticed 1936/37 scw seem to have that [3] or is it a [8] above the crest. I just looked at some of mine and scw have it but the Finns and refurbs don't.
Has anyone done any research into this mark?
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Has anyone done any research into this mark?
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Re: SCW mosin in wartime stock?
I have a Made in USSR stamped 37 SCW. It does not have the 8 (or 3.) That's a new one on me but may be common???