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Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:53 pm
by Finn39
From the few examples I can research it appears that many of the second contract, non-SIG rifles are in spliced stocks. Does this guarantee it was restocked as a rework? If so, would it have been done in-service or post war? Was it something the SA would have done when transferred or possibly still done under SY custody?

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:33 pm
by ssg_lord
As I recall Palokangas stated in his books that the Finn's started splicing Mosin stocks in 1935 so it's pretty likely any M24 with a spliced stock doesn't have it's original stock(both of mine are spliced). As for when it was done that's hard to say, the CG repair shop did upgrade stocks pre war but so did the SA both during and after the war.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:10 pm
by Finn39
Thank you.

Is there a title for the book?

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:17 pm
by Finn39
Found them...Marrku's small arms books. Finnish and EXPENSIVE...lol

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:17 am
by ssg_lord
Finn39 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:17 pm Found them...Marrku's small arms books. Finnish and EXPENSIVE...lol
Yup, at least as expensive as one of the rifles and probably more collectable since there are probably less than 100 sets in the U.S. but they have some great info in them.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:35 am
by Mangrove
ssg_lord wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:17 am Yup, at least as expensive as one of the rifles and probably more collectable since there are probably less than 100 sets in the U.S. but they have some great info in them.
It should noted the information in Palokangas' book "Sotilaskäsiaseet Suomessa 1918-1988" is outdated. Palokangas can be said to have be "lazy" when it came to quoting sources for his book. He often refers to secondary sources and interviews made several decades after the event instead of contemporary primary sources. Many times he does not give any sources to the claims. This can be seen also in his new book "Itsenäisen Suomen jalkaväen raskaat aseet ja ryhmäaseet".

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:39 am
by Finn39
Having been a history major, that's a major point taken Mangrove.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:48 pm
by Finn39
I've got a copy of Bowser's book but that only answers so many questions.

Disclosure: Took a chance and won a bid on one. Waiting on delivery.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:29 pm
by ssg_lord
Mangrove wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:35 am
ssg_lord wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:17 am Yup, at least as expensive as one of the rifles and probably more collectable since there are probably less than 100 sets in the U.S. but they have some great info in them.
It should noted the information in Palokangas' book "Sotilaskäsiaseet Suomessa 1918-1988" is outdated. Palokangas can be said to have be "lazy" when it came to quoting sources for his book. He often refers to secondary sources and interviews made several decades after the event instead of contemporary primary sources. Many times he does not give any sources to the claims. This can be seen also in his new book "Itsenäisen Suomen jalkaväen raskaat aseet ja ryhmäaseet".
You've mentioned that before Martti and I will certainly take your word for it given how much information you've provided us all on all things Finnish. One of the unfortunate things about being a Finnish collector that doesn't speak or read Finnish is the lack of information sources in English. Most of the websites and books on the subject in English are mostly based on information from Palokangas including Bowsers book. Perhaps in the future some knowledgable individual in Finland could print such a book for we poor English speakers. 8-) (yes that's a hint)

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:31 pm
by ssg_lord
Finn39 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:48 pm I've got a copy of Bowser's book but that only answers so many questions.

Disclosure: Took a chance and won a bid on one. Waiting on delivery.
You won one of Palokangas's books? Which volume? There are three.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:04 pm
by Finn39
A Bohler Stahl Lotta M24.

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:08 pm
by Finn39
....spliced stock. :wink:

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:13 pm
by Finn39
Started with two SAKO '41 M39s, then an M28 in 28/30 stock. The M24 seemed legit for my limited knowledge so I went for it. Next ups are M27 and 28/30 (Not neccessarily in that order).

Re: Bohler-Stahl Lotta M24 stocks

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:41 pm
by Finn39
OK...can anyone clue me in on what credible lit is out there I can use (if I can find and afford it) to study up? Also, is there an avenue of finnish records access?