is it authentic?
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:04 am
This German markup I understand is the revision by which it entered the EU.
What do you think is an authentic PU?
thx
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The СП or CH marks are found on Tula produced rifles aren't they?, the OP's rifle is a Izhevsk made rifle.Igrlik wrote:Missing letters in bolt number means - is not orignal to this weapon from the factory. And I can´t see typical "SN" or "SP" on the barrel for "snajper".
I think it would be pretty much impossible to trace its history through the serial number, once it left Izhevsk all those years ago it would be anyones guess on where its been over the last 76 yearswawa wrote:Thank you for answering, it is possible to know the history of my mosin through the number of the weapon?
My '44 Izhevsk has a "C" on top of the flat on the left hand receiver wall.reiver wrote:The scope and mounts look good to me...scope is honest.....it also has a Circle C on the barrel that was on many, but not all, Izhvesk snipers....but, from what I've read, is only on snipers from that factory.
It was always up high/towards the front but is found sometimes on the right or left.....my sniper has this mark on the right from '43.
The C in a circle is stamped on the barrel r or L above the factory stamp on snipers....there is a thread about this on GB's presently and the majority of the responders indicate (who know a lot more than me) that was an Izhevsk sniper stamp or barrel accuracy stamp (same thing really)… this was a barrel stamp and it must be within a circle. It is often opposite the y in a circle proof mark. I am just passing what I've read recently and am no expert by any means.Snayperskaya wrote:My '44 Izhevsk has a "C" on top of the flat on the left hand receiver wall.reiver wrote:The scope and mounts look good to me...scope is honest.....it also has a Circle C on the barrel that was on many, but not all, Izhvesk snipers....but, from what I've read, is only on snipers from that factory.
It was always up high/towards the front but is found sometimes on the right or left.....my sniper has this mark on the right from '43.
I still think the OP's scope serial number on the barrel shank looks wrong, that 7 doesn't look right.
That's the serial number block I was referring to in my first post where I said the OP's rifle serial number seems to fit.reiver wrote:
I thought I'd add these serial #'s of 1943 Izhevsk recorded in the sticky on GB....it would seem to fit …. but again simply info.
ИИ 1034 (PU, 1943, scope 58855)
ИИ 4203 (PU, 1943, scope A53380)
ИИ 4276 (PU, 1943, scope A59208)
ИИ 7464 (PU, 1943, scope A71440)
C mark on receiver......reiver wrote:It is a C within a circle and the circle is the same size as the often seen y in a circle proof mark...normally stamped above/near the factory stamp on the barrel.....the mark in your picture is not it. You can see it in the OP's pics above on the barrel markings shot....it is a clean stamp but slightly worn.
That was in the recent GB thread we were discussing but I could not locate it to link it.racerguy00 wrote:The C in a circle on the barrel has been shown by Ratnik to be an Izhevsk sniper marking through his extensive research of Soviet documents.
No, simply discussing a marking...the C in a Circle and this Mosin does have that....that is in its favor as an original sniper.wawa wrote:But does this mean that this mosin is not a PU?
Ask Ratnik, he is an expert….I was simply passing on his articulated knowledge after studying this subject of markings....or yourself, you must be an expert.Longcolt44 wrote:You guys are such experts in markings, answer the mans original question.
wawa wrote:But does this mean that this mosin is not a PU?