Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
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Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Romanian 91/30s are very uncommon and I had been hoping to find one for quite some time. When a gentleman on facebook mentioned he had one and would consider trading I was thrilled. I was more than a bit concerned to find out the rifle was in a synthetic spotter stock and scoped, then relieved to find he had all the original parts and nothing permanent was done to the rifle. After several months of fits and starts the deal was struck and I'm thrilled to have it.
Romanian 91/30s have a few unusual and unique features. The utilize a trigger similar to a mauser, and have a blade front sight with the base slotted for a hood. Most are in stocks that are made from m44 stocks complete with bayonet groove with a longer forearm spliced on. There is also a plug repair in front of the front action screw that may be from some sort of swivel installation
As far as production numbers, 1000 has been thrown about in various forums but I think the number is much smaller. All I have seen are dated 1955, and have serial numbers with an AC prefix. Also the first number is 5, presumably for the year of 1955. The lowest number I have seen is AC5007, the highest at AC5055. I have uncovered less than ten examples online during my research. Even with such low production there is one minor known variation. The date on most seems almost hand-scribed, but the others have a date stamped in an identical manner as the 1955 date Romanian m44s.
This particular example has the correct stock with matching buttplate, a mag floorplate from rifle #AC5019 which interestingly is featured in another online photo spread. The bolt is a nonmatching Soviet bolt. The bore is well used but decent, and the trigger has a fairly light trigger pull that breaks cleanly after taking up the slack. The toe of the stock had broken and is repaired with dowels and nails. The flakey finish is some sort of varnish or shellac that looks the same as what I've seen on other Romanian mosins.
Thanks for looking.
Romanian 91/30s have a few unusual and unique features. The utilize a trigger similar to a mauser, and have a blade front sight with the base slotted for a hood. Most are in stocks that are made from m44 stocks complete with bayonet groove with a longer forearm spliced on. There is also a plug repair in front of the front action screw that may be from some sort of swivel installation
As far as production numbers, 1000 has been thrown about in various forums but I think the number is much smaller. All I have seen are dated 1955, and have serial numbers with an AC prefix. Also the first number is 5, presumably for the year of 1955. The lowest number I have seen is AC5007, the highest at AC5055. I have uncovered less than ten examples online during my research. Even with such low production there is one minor known variation. The date on most seems almost hand-scribed, but the others have a date stamped in an identical manner as the 1955 date Romanian m44s.
This particular example has the correct stock with matching buttplate, a mag floorplate from rifle #AC5019 which interestingly is featured in another online photo spread. The bolt is a nonmatching Soviet bolt. The bore is well used but decent, and the trigger has a fairly light trigger pull that breaks cleanly after taking up the slack. The toe of the stock had broken and is repaired with dowels and nails. The flakey finish is some sort of varnish or shellac that looks the same as what I've seen on other Romanian mosins.
Thanks for looking.
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
It gets a yes vote from me. Wonderful to see one in detail here.
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I say yes. I have never seen one of those. Good find.
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Very very nice,
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Very nice.
Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
I would vote for it. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Agreed. I can't recall the last time (If ever) I've seen one as well.millman wrote:I say yes. I have never seen one of those. Good find.
Damn nice!!!!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Beautiful Romanian!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Nice and rare --> IMO more than worthy for the showcase
1910 Arg. Mauser M1909 (long rifle)
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Everyday I see something else I gotta have. That's awesome.!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
I like it!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Got my vote, nice find Dave!
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Very nice! Has my vote
Any idea where these were made? I can imagine with such low production that the per unit costs of making these was very high. You think they had Russian tooling or maybe piggy-backed off the tooling given to them for the M-44's?
Any idea where these were made? I can imagine with such low production that the per unit costs of making these was very high. You think they had Russian tooling or maybe piggy-backed off the tooling given to them for the M-44's?
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Real cool rifle!
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Damn it boys, I didn't get to vote yes. Do I get to vote? Muy Fino
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Re: Romanian 91/30 showcase submission
Nice Dave! That has a cool factor over many M91/30's regardless of condition.
Tim
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1909 Ex-Cossack M91/38
1929 SIG M28 non updated
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I'm not sure what the rationale was in building these but I have heard for use by security or police forces. Nothing concrete though. I have also heard that a few snipers exist too. I can say though that the machining and bluing on these are top-notch.qz2026 wrote:Very nice! Has my vote
Any idea where these were made? I can imagine with such low production that the per unit costs of making these was very high. You think they had Russian tooling or maybe piggy-backed off the tooling given to them for the M-44's?
I'm guessing they were piggybacked off of m44 production but could be wrong.
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Here is the rifle that donated my magazine floorplate somewhere along the way. Note the different font on the date.
http://imageevent.com/willyp/russiansov ... n9130m1944
http://imageevent.com/willyp/russiansov ... n9130m1944
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