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Hey guys this might be a stupid question but is it alright to use the brass cleaning brush that came in this kit on my mosin? Thanks for any and all help. Cheers!
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That depends , do you have brass on your Mosin? If so it will only be the handguard endcaps, they are already protected by the shellac that is probably all over them and do not require any further attention.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:That depends , do you have brass on your Mosin....
I'm thinking he meant the bore brush made from brass.....
I'm not the one to ask that question to, have a few different brass brushes that I rarely use, but I suspect that brass being softer that your bore would cause it no harm.... disclaimer I am no expert in mosin cleaning or materials and have never use the brass brush on my own, though I have used them on other fire arms with no ill effects
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Yes i was wondering about the bore brush? Just wondering if it would be ok to scrub the bore with the brass brush I wanted to be sure about it before I actually done it. Thanks guys.
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id wait till you get someone who knows more than me to confirm.
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You actually want to use the aluminum or brass rod that came with your kit in addition to the brass bore brush. The rifle's cleaning rod is made of the same steel as the barrel, therefore could damage the bore over time. But yes, a good, modern commercial cleaning kit and accessories are just fine.

Its a good question :)
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By all means use the bronze brush. I have found that .338-.375 brushes fit tighter, and give a better scrub than the .30 brush that comes in most cleaning kits. You aren't gonna hurt the bore with a bronze brush.
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Oh, the bore brush, yes, use it, just don't use any stainless steel ones in these older rifles, or any rifle for that matter. The bronze brush will clean without putting undue wear on your rifling.
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i just looked at my brush and the brush is plastic.....not brass i guess im good then
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dropkick66 wrote:i just looked at my brush and the brush is plastic.....not brass i guess im good then
I have a plastic one as well and it does not scrub as well as the bronze brushes.
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Plastic? Been awhile since I had any of them, you can find bronze cleaning brushes at Wallmart, or online.
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I have only gotten one plastic brush in all of my kits and that was a finnish kit. But i never use it. I use the 338 brush also. :D
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Some cleaning rods may be a bit short when pushing through from the breach end, which I highly reccomend, as cleaning from the muzzle is more apt to nick or wear it and effect accuracy, so I like to use .32 caliber pistol bronze wire brushes and an M1916 USGI brass cleaning rod.

The new carbon fiber rods are also really great as well. Just do not use steel, or any jointed cleaning rod. Always a one piece.

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Thanks for all the info I'll clean the bore on her tomorrow with the brass brush. I'm not gonna lie I have used the Mosin cleaning kit but put the full thing together as in the crown protector and all that jazz it just didn't clean all that great. The Hoppes rod screws together. Cheers!
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MarkB wrote: The Hoppes rod screws together. Cheers!
Keep the handle with the short piece of rod permanently attached for pistols, and dump the rest. Jointed rods can nick and wear rifling particularly as they loosen up. Please get the one piece.

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Tipton, or Dewey one piece rod, just be sure to get one long enough so you can clean from the breech end.
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To summarize, get yourself a good quality Carbon one piece cleaning rod, 8mm-.338 QUALITY bronze brushes & lots of them, a good brass jag in .30 caliber, a big bag of good patches, Kroil, CLP Break-free, Hoppes, Sweets 7.62, Foaming bore cleaner & some JB Bore Paste.

Also, a good cleaning mat, Gunsmith screwdriver kit, Lemon oil, paper towels, old toothbrush, brass brush, Q-tips, mink oil for leather, silicone gun cloth, bore light & safety glasses.

That's a good start to your ULTIMATE bench must-have list. :biggrin:
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There are some eBay and Gunbroker sellers who offer .30 cleaning patches by the 500 and 1000 count, the round ones. Buy in bulk and save, I buy 2000 every other year or when I need them, don't remember the sellers name from last time, but shop around and you will find some on one or the other sites.
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I by white flannel by the yard at Wally world and cut it to make patches.
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Get the one piece rod in a minimum of 40" and try your best to find a 44". Clean from the beach after removing the bolt. The Tipton rod is under 40.00 and would be a bargain at twice the price
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