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Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:17 pm
by yoy543
I just refinished my mosin nagant and i dont want it getting scratched up but everytime i shoot it the back ring moves forward and it move the whole barrel cover can someone please help me

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:26 pm
by desdem12
I have one that does that also. I just move it back when i notice it. The best advice i can give is to not try to bend the spring as it will break most likely. I would go out and buy another mosin and use it for shooting. :D :D

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:31 pm
by websterz
yoy543 wrote:I just refinished my mosin nagant and i dont want it getting scratched up but everytime i shoot it the back ring moves forward and it move the whole barrel cover can someone please help me
:pop:

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:35 pm
by desdem12
I was waiting for the websterz wit there. :pop: :pop:

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:36 pm
by WeldonHunter
Are the screws that hold the receiver/barrel assy. to the stock tight?

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:37 pm
by WeldonHunter
desdem12 wrote:I was waiting for the websterz wit there. :pop: :pop:
Heh, when I saw that I thought we were being revisited.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:38 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
You refinished it?

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:42 pm
by desdem12
I think he means that the handguard and the rear barrel band moves when he shoots it. But yes the screws should be tight. I have a 42 that the handguard moves and the band spring is broke. I believe it is probaly a earlier thick barrel band and a newer band spring so it probably slips past it. You may be able to fix the problem with ordering a new barrel band. What year of rifle is it yoy? :D

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:47 pm
by WeldonHunter
desdem12 wrote:I think he means that the handguard and the rear barrel band moves when he shoots it. But yes the screws should be tight. I have a 42 that the handguard moves and the band spring is broke. I believe it is probaly a earlier thick barrel band and a newer band spring so it probably slips past it. You may be able to fix the problem with ordering a new barrel band. What year of rifle is it yoy? :D
Yeah my thinking was if the screws are loose and the whole barrel assy. was moving it could cause this. Had it happen on my M44.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:52 pm
by WeldonHunter
Junk Yard Dog wrote:You refinished it?

So I wasn't the only one wondering about that. Some pictures would help maybe. Especially of the barrel band area.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:54 pm
by websterz
desdem12 wrote:I was waiting for the websterz wit there. :pop: :pop:
Wiseass...guilty as charged. :oops:

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:56 pm
by desdem12
I saw that too but maybe he just refinished putting it back together??? If not i hope it is not a real uncommon one like a 1907 or something although it would hurt no matter what it was. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:00 pm
by mosinmike17
Please tell me refinished means maybe a little shellac touch up....


My M91/30 barrel bands won't move. I've accepted this. It's got the clamp kind, I don't see any screws or anything, just two fitted pieces of metal. I doubt those open up without never closing again. Would my doubt be correct, or do my bands move after all? (The spring presses down, the band wont budge to slide over it)

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:01 pm
by mosinjunkie
It happens on one of my Mosins too. You shoot it, and the rear barrel band slips forward, and so does the hand guard. The rear barrel band retainer spring has probably lost its tension and is no longer doing its job. Find you a replacement on the web. They are available. You'll want the later stamped type. They have more spring in them. Look on the opposite side of the stock from the spring. You'll see a small hole. That's where you can knock out the spring with a small pin punch.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:16 pm
by desdem12
mosinmike17 wrote:My M91/30 barrel bands won't move. I've accepted this. It's got the clamp kind, I don't see any screws or anything, just two fitted pieces of metal. I doubt those open up without never closing again. Would my doubt be correct, or do my bands move after all? (The spring presses down, the band wont budge to slide over it)
Yours will move. Just oil them up and gently persuade them and they will come off. At the bottom there is a gap that you can see if you gently widen this gap they will move off and should go off easy from there. Not to much though or you will break them. Oil up the stock there and they should come off. :D

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:41 pm
by MN Fan
I had this problem on my first 91/30. I couldn't get the read band to seat behind the band spring far enough for it to pop up and properly seat. I finally noticed that there was a small "bead" of dried cosmoline around the edge of stock forearm shoulder. I carefully cleaned it up (with a popsickle stick lol) and everything snaps into place now. Be careful if you do this so you don't remove shellac.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:49 pm
by yoy543
desdem12 wrote:I think he means that the handguard and the rear barrel band moves when he shoots it. But yes the screws should be tight. I have a 42 that the handguard moves and the band spring is broke. I believe it is probaly a earlier thick barrel band and a newer band spring so it probably slips past it. You may be able to fix the problem with ordering a new barrel band. What year of rifle is it yoy? :D
it was made in 1943 it is the m91/30 model

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:51 pm
by yoy543
mosinmike17 wrote:Please tell me refinished means maybe a little shellac touch up....


My M91/30 barrel bands won't move. I've accepted this. It's got the clamp kind, I don't see any screws or anything, just two fitted pieces of metal. I doubt those open up without never closing again. Would my doubt be correct, or do my bands move after all? (The spring presses down, the band wont budge to slide over it)
me and my dad completley stripped the thing to the bare wood and restained it and put a few layers of polyethalene on it click the link and you can see it http://www.moddb.com/members/oyo543/ima ... r#imagebox

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:55 pm
by martin08
I would try to pawn that refinish job on to someone else, too.

Re: Barrel Ring Problem

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:59 pm
by WeldonHunter
martin08 wrote:I would try to pawn that refinish job on to someone else, too.
Yoicks!!!! :big shock: :big shock: