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Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:13 am
by pacanis
millman wrote:I by white flannel by the yard at Wally world and cut it to make patches.
That's a great idea. How do you cut it? Does it cut easier than regular patches?
I had one heckuva time the other day cutting some cleaning patches down. Every pair of scissors I grabbed, and they are newer, sharp scissors, just wanted to fold the material.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:17 am
by Junk Yard Dog
That's why I like the round USGI .30 patches, they are a perfect fit for any .30 rifle.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:20 am
by Junk Yard Dog
You forgot your own text :)

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:23 am
by pacanis
Junk Yard Dog wrote:You forgot your own text :)
It's the thought that counts. :bwink:

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:13 am
by bunkysdad
Junk Yard Dog wrote:That depends , do you have brass on your Mosin? If so it will only be the handguard endcaps, they are already protected by the shellac that is probably all over them and do not require any further attention.
This is an attempt to make you put on your thinking cap early in the morning. :)

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:48 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Thinking cap broke......in 1986, but I am working on it :)

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:14 am
by Sgt. Rob
Rongoman wrote:To summarize, get yourself a good quality Carbon one piece cleaning rod, 8mm-.338 QUALITY bronze brushes & lots of them, a good brass jag in .30 caliber, a big bag of good patches, Kroil, CLP Break-free, Hoppes, Sweets 7.62, Foaming bore cleaner & some JB Bore Paste.

Also, a good cleaning mat, Gunsmith screwdriver kit, Lemon oil, paper towels, old toothbrush, brass brush, Q-tips, mink oil for leather, silicone gun cloth, bore light & safety glasses.

That's a good start to your ULTIMATE bench must-have list. :biggrin:
Rongoman has a great list, I would add pipe cleaners and and a bore light of some type.

Later on get an Elby sight tool, I'm still waiting on mine but I think it will be the cats meow for getting windage zero. And a set of Okie head space guages can't hurt either, there on my next months payday check list.

Semper FI, Rob

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:16 am
by Sgt. Rob
I should add that you do not need all this stuff at once, start with the rod, brush, jag, hoppes, and patches. Then go from there.

Semper Fi, Rob

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:18 am
by MN Fan
I'd recommend NOT to get a felt type gun cleaning mat. I picked one up at Cabela's recently. I now see there's a reason they don't use their own mat at the gun counter.

I'll add Q-Tips to the list. They're cheap, and I use them daily :)

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:22 am
by Junk Yard Dog
I use floor mats out of the rear areas of mini vans, cleaned up, and flipped over so the plain side is up.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:33 pm
by MarkB
I have the elby sight tool I used it to put the aperture sight on the front of my mosin which the tool kinda marred it a bit so i'm probably gonna put the post and globe sight back on.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:53 pm
by millman
pacanis wrote:
millman wrote:I by white flannel by the yard at Wally world and cut it to make patches.
That's a great idea. How do you cut it? Does it cut easier than regular patches?
I had one heckuva time the other day cutting some cleaning patches down. Every pair of scissors I grabbed, and they are newer, sharp scissors, just wanted to fold the material.
I used to use a pair of pinking shears, They worked quite well. But the last batch I had, I got my MIL to use her rotary cutter that she uses for quilting. That was the way to go. She has some way of setting the width, and they were all almost exactly 1 1/2 inches square. Short of a seamstress MIL, I would suggest the pinking shears. :)

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:48 pm
by MN Fan
Sgt. Rob wrote: Just do not use steel, or any jointed cleaning rod. Always a one piece.
+1

Sometimes, no matter how many times I read something, I have to see it first hand to have it sink in. Of course, I just read this post from Rob today. I am actually fond of my new 4 piece brass rod set and thought though Rob's advice makes sense, I'll be OK.

So tonight, I bring home the blackpowder rifle and like usual, give a new rifle a good cleaning. Well my nifty sectional cleaning rod decides to come unscrewed with the brush down at the breach. I got it out without too much trouble, but I consider myself very lucky...and in the market for a single piece rod!

Though his advice was more to avoid bore damage, the same thoughts are applicable to black powder.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:52 pm
by runs.like
do they make those nifty rope cleaners for rifles? I've got one for my ruger mkii that's pretty snazzy and no worries about a rod causing damage to the bore.... as I type this I image the rope breaking...

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:54 pm
by desdem12
Thet do have bore snakes for rifles but i have found that the patches work better in a dirty rifle. I do use one every now and then though. :D

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:13 pm
by pacanis
I like using bore snakes. They're long enough to drop through these long barrels and handy enough that you can carry them with you while shooting and run them through while the barrel is warm.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:26 pm
by MarkB
Yes I need to pick a bore snake up as well. I think i'm gonna order a Tipton carbon fiber cleaning rod and not worry about damaging anything. As I mentioned I have used the Mosin cleaning rod but properly put it together I just dont much care for the jag on it. I cleaned her really well today though ran patches through until clean white ones came out.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:56 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Never used a bore snake, only cleaning rods of the one piece variety, from my USGI 1916 brass to the Devey , and a few aluminium ones for the shotguns and black powder shooters.

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:31 am
by Sgt. Rob
For me bore snakes work OK on nice new clean and un pitted , un frosted bores. Otherwise they foul up quickly. For a pull through cleaning system I highly reccomend the Otis kit.

Semper Fi, Rob

Re: Hoppes kit

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:50 am
by MarkB
My bore is pretty damn shiny there is no pitting or frosting in that I can see. It looks really well and clean for a 1943 rifle.