The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

After I cycle the bolt on my M91/30 (1939) the trigger is tight with no play at all, but on the M44 (1944) and M38 (1943) they are extremely loose to the point of rattling around back and forth. Is this a characteristic of all of the carbines, or the ones built during the war or do I have a problem that I need to fix? I haven't fired the M44 or M38 yet, and I haven't dry fired them, but I do "decock" them by holding the rear of the bolt with my thumb. The trigger pull seems normal once I take the slack up. If I'm using the wrong terminology here let me know. I am a Mosin novice.

The trigger on an M/N ranges from really nice to atrocious. Most mosins are somewhere in between, and some play is normal. Have you taken the stock off either carbine yet? If you do that and the trigger pin doesn't fall out it sounds normal to me.

I haven't taken the stocks off yet. Thanks I'll do that and see what happens.

sbkittrell wrote:After I cycle the bolt on my M91/30 (1939) the trigger is tight with no play at all, but on the M44 (1944) and M38 (1943) they are extremely loose to the point of rattling around back and forth. Is this a characteristic of all of the carbines, or the ones built during the war or do I have a problem that I need to fix? I haven't fired the M44 or M38 yet, and I haven't dry fired them, but I do "decock" them by holding the rear of the bolt with my thumb. The trigger pull seems normal once I take the slack up. If I'm using the wrong terminology here let me know. I am a Mosin novice.

That trigger "slop" can be eliminated with one of those add on trigger springs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Tr ... 1c17024418

I'm not sure it really changes much, other than some people hate the "slop". Every Mosin is different. Finns have the best handle on triggers. In fact, you could replace the triggers with a Finn (two stage) trigger.

Dolk

dolk wrote:

sbkittrell wrote:After I cycle the bolt on my M91/30 (1939) the trigger is tight with no play at all, but on the M44 (1944) and M38 (1943) they are extremely loose to the point of rattling around back and forth. Is this a characteristic of all of the carbines, or the ones built during the war or do I have a problem that I need to fix? I haven't fired the M44 or M38 yet, and I haven't dry fired them, but I do "decock" them by holding the rear of the bolt with my thumb. The trigger pull seems normal once I take the slack up. If I'm using the wrong terminology here let me know. I am a Mosin novice.

That trigger "slop" can be eliminated with one of those add on trigger springs.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mosin-Nagant-Tr ... 1c17024418

I'm not sure it really changes much, other than some people hate the "slop". Every Mosin is different. Finns have the best handle on triggers. In fact, you could replace the triggers with a Finn (two stage) trigger.

Dolk

Thanks. If it is the way it was built I'll leave them that way, as long as it doesn't effect the operation of the rifle. That's they way they were built, carried and used, so I'll just let it be. I was just curious because the trigger on the the Tula was so tight. It really doesn't bother me at all, as long as the rifle functions like it was supposed to function.

Like he said, I think I would pull the stock and make sure the pin that goes through the trigger has not fallen out. It is a very rare thing, but happens from time to time. If the pin is in there, then, that is the way it is. Just be careful that you don't loose the pin when taking everything apart (like he said). There is so much variation in these rifles, it's hard to decide what is "normal" sometimes.

Dolk