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Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:41 pm
by mebailj
Bought this consignment at a good price from a local dealer. I have seen stocks on the refurbished MO rifles in the red stained shellac finish. I read where the MO rifles were given a complete refurbish, and I was hopping that the finish and color of this refurb stock is correct or if the previous owner has refinished the stock since buying. The metal is really nice in places and has some places covered by black paint.

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:52 pm
by millman
There is no "correct" MO stock. All that I have ever seen were standard refurbs with a MO stamp. Sometimes the metal seems to have seen a bit of extra attention, but the wood was just whatever happened to be at hand. Post some more pics. In those pics the stock kinda looks stripped. I hope that is not the case.

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:00 pm
by Miller Tyme
millman wrote:There is no "correct" MO stock. All that I have ever seen were standard refurbs with a MO stamp. Sometimes the metal seems to have seen a bit of extra attention, but the wood was just whatever happened to be at hand. Post some more pics. In those pics the stock kinda looks stripped. I hope that is not the case.

+1 Sadly the stock has been refinished. :b sad:

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:17 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Stock does look refinished.

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:18 pm
by target
Need better pictures to be sure. If it's lacking shellac then odds are yeah it's been gone over.

I've got an MO 1942/46 and it looks to have been gone over with a fine toothed comb. The wood to metal fit is really good and the finish on the metal and stock is very well done. Still haven't shot it yet, but I suspect it will be a good shooter. The stock on my MO is a very light orange.

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:05 pm
by bunkysdad
People often refinish these rifles because they see some type of imperfection, and no 75 year old battle rifle should have any imperfections right? And with their vast knowledge and woodworking skills they can't wait to fix it. There is no question that what these guys are doing to these look nice to the new guy buying his first rifle or two, but as you begin to understand the history behind these milsurps you also realize that they are no longer correct. You can take this rifle to the range and enjoy shooting it and have a great time, and if you get bitten by the collecting bug use it as a learning tool. That is what I did, after destroying the original finish on my Egyptian Hakim, a rifle collected from the battlefield by the Israelis

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:59 am
by zeebill
Looks nice but alas also refinished to my over the web eye. Many people buy $100 rifles and get just that a $100 rifle. A very lucky few get more than that in value so keep that in mind when you look around for the next buy. Bill :cry:

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:35 pm
by mebailj
Does anyone know of a good source for stocks? Since MOs came with whatever stocks were available, I think I will just put a refurbed stock on it.

Re: Is this a correct MO stock?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:10 pm
by Marcus
I have a decent condition stock set that would be appropriate and correct for a refurbed updated Izhevsk dragoon or early 91/30. It has the early 2 screw sling slot escutcheons, milled steel band retainers with early Izhevsk bow and arrow markings, and a slightly visible Izhevsk rondel cartouche - I can't tell if it is the early 1920's "PCOCP" (RSFSR) or the later "CCCP" (SSSR) marking that was used in the 1920's though mid 1940's. Stock is in good, issued and used condition - there is some wear and flaking to the shellac, especially on the forend and handguard, but it has not been refinished or dicked with. The handguard is the WW2 91/30 type with the steel endcaps. This is one I had originally set aside in case I came across an updated dragoon or an early 91/30 with a Bubba'ed or damaged stock, or even for use with a Spanish Civil War or Finn captured rifle that needed a stock until I could find a more correct one.

I want $45 + shipping on the stock and handguard. I don't have any photos of it right now.

You could then recoup a significant part of this by selling your stripped stock and handguard set for $25-$30 to one of those guys who feel that refinishing is somehow "restoring", so they could sand that one down and slather it in shiny pimp snot, then when they realize what a bad and stupid idea that is, they would still have their original, undamaged stock to put back on the gun.