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Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:47 am
by martin08
"My lucky day"

- understatement of the century

Congrats. The overall condition is superb, as well. Difficult to upgrade a specimen like that.

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:16 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Just think about the stuff just sitting in little gunstore racks marked " Russian rifle" even as we look this one over, the stuff is out there.

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:28 am
by racerguy00
Don't forget the mosins marked as mausers, enfields, and just about any other milsurp. It cracks me up when some are misidentified even when they a big descriptive import mark in them.

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:43 am
by Homer2
I always assume for every rare rifle found there are probably three to five others just like it out there in bubbas hands or in a closet. Only a small percentage of unique rifles probably end up in the hands of collectors.

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Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:50 am
by Junk Yard Dog
One of my Finn Mosins is marked as a Mauser on the import stamp :)

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:50 am
by zeebill
My first question would be is that indeed M91 length? My second statement would be congrats regardless of what the answer is! Do you know how hard it is to find that particular hand guard in one piece? I have been a couple of M91RV's and never seen that hand guard in one piece or even present with the rifle. Just proof of how often we overlook the trees for the forest! Great Find for sure! Let me guess $175? I really don't care as it was well worth the cash. I have noticed something on the M91RV versus the M27Rv's I have seen from you pictures and other ones I have seen. See how straight cut the relief in the butt stock is on that rifle? On most M27RV's they seen to have learned to make that cut and roll the edges of it much more like the Mausers they were copying. Shame the disc is missing as that would tell us the unit for sure and now we can only guess at it. Wow I could look at pictures of that all day! Thanks so much for sharing and again congrats! Bill :D

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:53 am
by Homer2
I think from memory on Ted's site that there may be full length M91RV rifles and Dragoon length M91RV rifles, which this would be I believe.

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Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:55 am
by Junk Yard Dog
There are both I believe, but my memory may be wrong, we know for sure there are dragoon ones as we are looking at one :)

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:11 am
by Homer2
I checked again. I was thinking P Series rifles have a Dragoon that is much more rare. Ted only lists M91rv rifles as being Dragoons.

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Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:28 am
by Rongo
You have a keeper & bookmark to the collection. Cherish that baby & congratulations on acquiring it. :vcool: :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:32 am
by martin08
Yes, to my knowledge, there were no full-length infantry rifles that were converted for cavalry use by the Finns. Only the Dragoon and Cossack.

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:59 am
by bunkysdad
Oh mercy! What a glass case candidate- and the showcase.:P

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:41 pm
by ffeng31
Here's a good one for all of the gurus. I like to have a sling for all of my rifles. Which sling would be correct for this rifle? :?: :?:

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:56 pm
by zeebill
You have proof that either the Mauser or the conventional Finn sling would be right in the two sling parts on the rifle itself. Take your pick either is right in my eyes. Bill :D

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:15 pm
by iwuzwhatiwuz
Cool gun! One of these days I want to find one of these " Antiques Roadshow" level finds. What the heck is a M27rv even worth?

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:10 pm
by jonnyboy091373
Wow :o very lucky find.

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:33 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
iwuzwhatiwuz wrote:Cool gun! One of these days I want to find one of these " Antiques Roadshow" level finds. What the heck is a M27rv even worth?
2.5 million dollars............ there, now that he's fainted, I would say $600? :lol:

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:19 pm
by iwuzwhatiwuz
Is that an auction estimate or insureance value? :wink:

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:26 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
His asking price maybe :)

Re: My Lucky Day ....1913 Finn Izhevsk Dragoon

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:38 pm
by racerguy00
I've only ever seen one m91rv listed for sale before, and it went for $800ish IIRC. That was over a year ago. Its condition was nothing compared to this one.