Fess up, anyone win this antique M91/38 auction?

[WWW]

It wasn't listed correctly or it might have gotten more attention.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =542926537

[Miller Tyme]

Nope, saw it but I have a 91/38 already.

[redspoon]

Wow $705 shipped, that's good to hear unless you're on the hunt for one. Got one three years ago (not antique) for $325 and thought I paid too much.

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[SA1911a1]

A sniper price for a cut-down M-91. It was not me...

[Fledge]

Nope...

[Junk Yard Dog]

Yea, right, you wait for me to pay that and you best be prepared to wait until the sun explodes, 'cause it ain't happening.

[Rongo]

I have a few already... Too rich for me.

[NLMosin]

What no grey blanket??

[WWW]

Well, I guess I feel even better about my $500 M91/38 then. lol

Other than being an antique (1898), what else did it have going for it? Looks like a Czech stock (?), so other than being in good shape, that's nothing special.

More than one person really needed (wanted) a 91/38 apparently.

[willyj73]

Dam. I have a hard time even getting "retail" at times when I sell.

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[qz2026]

I was watching that one (I watch them all) . And it got the attention from those who are in the market for them.

Two relatively new buyers having a bidding war. Beautiful gun, 1898 Izhevsk, not so remarkable new Czech M-44 stock. Way, way over paid for that one. But that's what happens when two guys decide it's theirs and not the other guys. Same thing happened to a matching Hungarian M-44. Two guys duked it out to a $471 final price. Nothing really special other than a solid gun that matched. Last night was crazy and no full moon. I've learned to stay away from Sunday nights. And I cringe when I see an (NR) in the bidding

[djbuck1]

No. But to each, his own.

[Fledge]

Lots of craziness going on at gunbroker lately

[Junk Yard Dog]

I love a bidding war, when it's my own shit selling, not so much when I want to buy something. New bidders are fine so long as they pay, I find that 98% of them on my auctions do. I have had people open accounts just to buy something off my list.

[bunkysdad]

You guys saying this isn't anything special are spoiled rotten. Think about the guy that has only a few rifles, maybe more common refurbs and makes a sacrifice to buy this and then has to watch it being called not so remarkable. Personally I think it is quite nice and remarkable. Worth the price? Yes, to the new owner. It ain't me by the way.

[Darryl]

Exactly. I'd have to save my pennies for that one, but it is at the top of "pile" of M91/38's. In a few years, you all will be crying wondering why you didn't pay that for that rifle! One thing about collectibles (most of the time), they always gain in value. This one will to in time. And when it does, it will be a fantastic example of a M91/38.

[WWW]

You guys saying this isn't anything special are spoiled rotten. Think about the guy that has only a few rifles, maybe more common refurbs and makes a sacrifice to buy this and then has to watch it being called not so remarkable. Personally I think it is quite nice and remarkable. Worth the price? Yes, to the new owner. It ain't me by the way.

I don't disagree, which is why I asked the question. I am here to learn and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything, and it means my purchase just became a better deal too apparently, imho. Personally, I would love it if mine was an antique, but it isn't. I would also love it if it had any of the other *more desirable traits, ie. extraordinary marks, etc. A Czech stock by itself, is not something that adds to the value of a 91/38, as I understand it. I fully understand the antique receiver adding value. How many 91/38's are there out in the wild? No one knows, but as far as we all know, not many. Supply and demand is at work here. If you don't get one soon, I think it is very likely the price will be higher later.

I would like to add, I "overpaid" for my 91/38 according to some, and it doesn't bother me. I'm ok with that. I understand value is "relative" and subject to opinion. I also wouldn't pay $230+/- for a common refurb now, but that is what a lot of buyers entering the Mosin market are going to pay in this market now after shipping, or transfer fees, or taxes, or whatever. This is a good thing for those who already have their collections, because you or your heirs will make a killing later.

[neal45]

I agree that the price was a little high but it was nice and someone added a Mosin they really wanted to their collection. Sure it is a refurb; but a somewhat rare variation not related to the modern refurbs and now generally attributed to Bulgaria. (So what we have been calling a "Czech Stock" may more accurately be called a "Bulgarian Stock." )

Anyway I have overpaid for a few Mosins too - but wouldn't sell them for what I paid and I would rather have something unique like a 91/38 than 3 of the new refurbs. And it looks like so did they buyer. Good for him.

That is what is so nice about Mosin collecting; we each can get into our own preferences and be quite happy.

[thughes]

I look at it this way: Bubba ain't paying that much for an old relic. Pretty safe to say that whoever paid that price won't be ceracoating the metal in FDE and dropping her into an Archangel stock.

[qz2026]

You guys saying this isn't anything special are spoiled rotten. Think about the guy that has only a few rifles, maybe more common refurbs and makes a sacrifice to buy this and then has to watch it being called not so remarkable. Personally I think it is quite nice and remarkable. Worth the price? Yes, to the new owner. It ain't me by the way.

Whoa Nelly... I indicated that the stock was not remarkable, and it isn't - otherwise a beautiful gun. For that kind of money, you would at least want an M-91 stock. I wouldn't say that I am spoiled rotten. I would say that I know what these are worth and that there are different levels of collectability within the 91/38 Genre. And I would say that every time there is an auction like this the value of these guns is reset higher than it normally would have, making it even more difficult for newer enthusiasts to enter the market.