The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

I've been looking for an M91/59 to add to the family. I read that an M91/59 in an M44 stock is 'atypical'. The last few I've seen for sale however have been in M44 stocks. If you had your choice would you get one in the cut down 91/30 stock or the M44? Thanks.

The M44 stock would have to be altered to allow for the larger diameter 91/30 barrel, but otherwise would make no real difference. The entire 91/59 is an atypical rifle.

It always come to personal preference. Get what speaks to you.

My first was a common 1943 with nothing out of the ordinary but it was a really nice example, local and priced right.
My next was a hex receiver with a cool stock repair. Some people don't like these repairs but I like them and buy just for them some times.

As long as bubba didn't mess with it, you should be happy with any m91/59.

M91/59 porn.

There are actually (at least) three different stock variations.




1) Cut down stock from a M91/30. Cut down to Carbine size. It will not have a bayonet groove in it. They will look used and refurbished, much like any refurbished Russian rifle. Very common variant.





2) A M44 stock that was used on the M44 carbines. It will have a groove cut for a bayonet (M44). They could look either new, or very nice in condition. Common variant.

Sorry, don't have a M44 style M91/59, but basically looks like a Russian M44 Carbine stock.



3) a "purpose built stock" for the M91/59's. It is a "new" stock made the same as a M38 style stock and built for the M91/59 project. It will not have a bayonet groove in it. They will look new and almost look like a Polish M44 stock (without a bayonet groove). Very uncommon variant.



Dolk

That first photo looks pretty familiar.

Lee-online wrote:It always come to personal preference. Get what speaks to you.

My first was a common 1943 with nothing out of the ordinary but it was a really nice example, local and priced right.
My next was a hex receiver with a cool stock repair. Some people don't like these repairs but I like them and buy just for them some times.

As long as bubba didn't mess with it, you should be happy with any m91/59.

M91/59 porn.

There is no such thing as a common M91/59 no matter what the date or arsenal. These are rifles that were made from other rifles, not manufactured off an assembly line like the M44, or M38 were. The numbers of them would be limited by that and because they are not a production rifle we will never have a year by year breakdown of the barreled receivers used. 1943 could end up being the least used date of all, we just don't know for sure.

Awesome! Thanks Gents!

As always there are many answers to the same question when it comes to mosins. I like to get the groups consensus before I buy. I appreciate the info....

FrankenTula™, a Sears butcher job er, sporter 91/30, resides in a Hungarian M44 stock; no alterations were necessary, though I do not use the handguard. Perhaps if I had, I would have had to do some work. I didn't want it to look like I tried to 'fake' an M91/59, nor take the chance that the handguard obscured the shorter M1903 Springfield sight that was typically installed on these. It is my deer gun, quite accurate, and I don't worry about the stock while hunting, it doesn't have the Russian shellac finish.

Junk Yard Dog wrote:There is no such thing as a common M91/59 no matter what the date or arsenal. These are rifles that were made from other rifles, not manufactured off an assembly line like the M44, or M38 were. The numbers of them would be limited by that and because they are not a production rifle we will never have a year by year breakdown of the barreled receivers used. 1943 could end up being the least used date of all, we just don't know for sure.

I say common because, as of now, the vast majority of m91/59s we have here in the US are 1942 and 1943 dates.

Weren't m44s rare and collectable when they first showed up due to not seeing them here in the US before. Now look at them, very easy to find.


when did these m91/59s first start showing up?

All this talk of 91/59 carbines makes me want to go get mine out and hug it.

I had to go look at mine too. That top photo from dolk is my sanitized one. And a 42 and a 43.

Well, there are certainly much that the 91/59's have in common as it relates to the stock, it finish and the way the escutcheons were used. The M-44 stock in these carbines was "atypical" but are considered correct and thus worth having if you can find one. You just see very few of them and probably represent the tail end of the 91/59 builds. Here is an example.

Isnt the Mosin at the top of the forum page a 91/59? And why was it chosen?

Meena wrote:Isnt the Mosin at the top of the forum page a 91/59? And why was it chosen?

Yes it is a m91/59.
Dolk owns that rifle and this website so I guess that why he chose it, well along with it being a great clean example of a Mosin.

Just curious. I didnt know if it was his first one or meant something special to someone?

I just pulled my 1943 91/59 out and it reminded me why I bought it. I love repairs.

Now thats my kind of stock Longcolt!! At what point did they ever give up on a stock and toss it out?!

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NLMosin wrote:Now thats my kind of stock Longcolt!! At what point did they ever give up on a stock and toss it out?!