What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M91
What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M91
Within the last hour I started a thread about my two recent additions, including this Tikka M91.
After starting that thread I pulled it apart for cleaning and found these holes. They are under the wood line, I can't imagine that Bubba would have done this....it still has the hardened Finn grease on it and has no damage to the stock. I can only imagine the Finns did this? Any thoughts?
The action sitting in the stock:
Lifted up out of the stock. Note two drilled and tapped holes in the receiver:
I don't think the receiver was swapped after initial assembly by the Finns, it's barrel/receiver number matches:
I've never seen this before
After starting that thread I pulled it apart for cleaning and found these holes. They are under the wood line, I can't imagine that Bubba would have done this....it still has the hardened Finn grease on it and has no damage to the stock. I can only imagine the Finns did this? Any thoughts?
The action sitting in the stock:
Lifted up out of the stock. Note two drilled and tapped holes in the receiver:
I don't think the receiver was swapped after initial assembly by the Finns, it's barrel/receiver number matches:
I've never seen this before
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Did you Google them? (See Hitler's rant) Google knows all.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Yep, sure did. Gave up after looking at page after page of people wanting to add a scope mount to the poor thing.one finger john wrote:Did you Google them? (See Hitler's rant) Google knows all.
That video is hilarious btw
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
You'd have to do some detective work looking to see if the impressions of the barreled action match exactly to the stock. Those holes look recent (shiny) and might be someone's attempt at scoping it. It may have worn another stock.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
I'll look into it for sure. The best clue I can give now is the butt plate is matched to the rifle, but that's an easy swap.WeldonHunter wrote:You'd have to do some detective work looking to see if the impressions of the barreled action match exactly to the stock. Those holes look recent (shiny) and might be someone's attempt at scoping it. It may have worn another stock.
It just seems odd because the holes are on the downwards curvature of the receiver. Heck...anything is possible with these old Mosins as we see every day. Bubba is always lingering.
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Weldonhunter,
I think it's been wearing this stock for a while. Here are pictures of deep imprints in the stock- the assembly number matches the 3764 in the original post and the 1905 tang date. I cannot see the remnants of any other numbers.
I think it's been wearing this stock for a while. Here are pictures of deep imprints in the stock- the assembly number matches the 3764 in the original post and the 1905 tang date. I cannot see the remnants of any other numbers.
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Well that rules out it being a replacement stock I'd say but it's still entirely possible it was drilled, scoped and in another stock for some other reason. What's the import mark on it? Century?
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Yep, CAI St. Albany stamp underneath the forward portion of the barrel.
I can't discount any possibilities, and the only thing I was initially worried about was safety. The holes do not contact the chamber at all so it should be good to go. The curiosity is still there.
I can't discount any possibilities, and the only thing I was initially worried about was safety. The holes do not contact the chamber at all so it should be good to go. The curiosity is still there.
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Well this is a theory but Century did make fake PU snipers out of Finn rifles back in like the 90s but this one looks to have been drilled more recently. Maybe they started to make this one and for some reason didn't go through with it. I don't know. Keep in mind you're seeing the metal way better than I can with just a picture. All I can say is I've never seen holes like other than being drilled by someone here in the states.81turbota wrote:Yep, CAI St. Albany stamp underneath the forward portion of the barrel.
I can't discount any possibilities, and the only thing I was initially worried about was safety. The holes do not contact the chamber at all so it should be good to go. The curiosity is still there.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
I agree, I've seen some of the CAI stepchildren, their in house techs could have done anything. My initial thought was the Finns used those holes as a jig to remove the original 1905 barrel, but if that was the case we would see many more examples of these holes. I'm glad it rests in its original (Finn) stock, and it's safe to shoot. I would put a dollar on century, as the rifle hasn't had an initial cleaning. It still has that yellowish hard grease everywhere.
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Are the holes on the side where a PU would mount? They look more toward the bottom of the receiver.
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Those holes look a little low to me too. Someone screwed up me thinks no matter where it was done. Well, if it's safe to shoot, it is a nice looking rifle. Have fun with it.
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
What is the spacing of the holes (center to center) ?
Looks like someone was attempting to put a PU mount on the rifle and gave up.
Looks like someone was attempting to put a PU mount on the rifle and gave up.
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Yeah, definitely seems like a scope mount of some sort. If that is the case, kudos to the previous Bubba for returning his failed project to its uncut original stock.
The holes measure 2 3/32" center to center
The holes measure 2 3/32" center to center
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Looks like a bubba cut to me, the hole near the 4 is too sloppy for the Finns.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
That was an M91 right? PU scoped M91 from Century? Some one tired and failed to mount a scope and was lucky enough to have the damage below the wood line. I would say. Still may be a great shooter though so who cares what can not be seen? I would clean that with acetone, out of the stock of course and maybe dab some cold blue on there to prevent future rust damage. Then head for the range and enjoy it! Bill
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Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
yep I think so too.Miller Tyme wrote:What is the spacing of the holes (center to center) ?
Looks like someone was attempting to put a PU mount on the rifle and gave up.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
Looks like a Bubba attempt to cash in on the Mosin sniper market.
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
That looks to be the general consensus. Thank you bubba for keeping below the wood line. It's thoroughly cleaned, reassembled and looking great. Ready for the range.
Man that thing is long. Hard to get a halfway decent picture of the entire rifle
Man that thing is long. Hard to get a halfway decent picture of the entire rifle
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39
1941 Podolsk SVT40 - SA
Re: What the heck are these drilled and tapped holes? Finn M
At least Bubba was kind enough not to mangle the stock. Should be a nice shooter.
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