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Stopped in a couple of shops in Missouri today and could only buy two 100ct's of any primers per day and only one 1lb of powder a day. Did find more 7.62x38r surplus at a good price and bought some but i don't see it slowing down anytime soon if the above article is true....
yeah I would think they want to ship as much as they can and as fast and at the best price they can get from us.. I also would't put it past our ruler to sign this executive order in a very sneaky fashion.
Everybody also needs to realize that this stuff is all in very limited supply, we have been using it up at an amazing rate for more than 20 years, the flow can't last. There are no factory's on the other end of the chain unless Molot cranks up the old machines to start producing brand new rifles if they aren't already. We are buying up the remnants of a war that ended nearly 70 years ago, you factor in 100 million gun owners in just the US, if only a fraction of that number wants a Mosin we are talking huge numbers of rifles to fill that need. How many have bought a Mosin in the last 15 years? A lot, just a glance at you tube shown countless numbers of new Mosin owners showing off their rifles. On this board and the old one I have seen thousands of " this is my new Mosin" posts. It's the most common Milsurp since the Arisaka just after WW2. Sooner or later, probably sooner the last dusty crate will be dragged out of the back of the cave, and that will be it legislation or no. Remember as well that we share the rifle supply with the rest of the world.
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As of this morning the board has 2005 members, lets assume each one of us has a Mosin, that's 2005 rifles right there on just this board. That isn't including all the other boards, or the huge majority of Mosin owners who belong to no board at all. Now we all know what Mosinitis is, so many of the 2005 members will have two or more Mosins, some might have 100 or more. 4010 Mosins, but more likely closer to 10,000 as I know how much crap some of you have stashed away from reading all the posts every day. 10,000 estimated just here with us. probably more, and we are only a small portion of Mosin owners . No way that level of supply can be maintained in the long term without production, and we aren't about new stuff here.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:As of this morning the board has 2005 members, lets assume each one of us has a Mosin, that's 2005 rifles right there on just this board. That isn't including all the other boards, or the huge majority of Mosin owners who belong to no board at all. Now we all know what Mosinitis is, so many of the 2005 members will have two or more Mosins, some might have 100 or more. 4010 Mosins, but more likely closer to 10,000 as I know how much crap some of you have stashed away from reading all the posts every day. 10,000 estimated just here with us. probably more, and we are only a small portion of Mosin owners . No way that level of supply can be maintained in the long term without production, and we aren't about new stuff here.
Are you trying to depress me JYD?? Lol... I hate that your right...
Hey, at least we still have 10,000 Mosins to talk about once the supply of recent imports dries up
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Well as others have stated the whole thing boils down to supply and demand. When the supply dries up for whatever reason the prices go up. Are the importers limiting the supply? Maybe.The oil companies do it all the time. They take 1 or 2 refineries off line "for maintanance" and we pay the price. Fair? No! The only thing we as consumers can do is not buy at those prices. That is not easy when you get Mosinitis so we have to remain strong or suck it up.
There is a plus to all this.............our collections also go up and those $100 investments can double that is if you can part with any of them. Until then invest wisely.
Other thing to watch for is all these "new" mosin owners that we see buying up mosins because they were cheap and they wanted a big boom stick that was also cheap to shoot. Once all that cheap ammo is harder to get or all but gone then they are not going to want to reload for it or pay the big price of commerical ammo to feed them. That's when we swoop in and pick them up at what they paid for them back when they were $99.
zeebill wrote:What in life has not gone up? With the way our country is going the dollar will be second class toilet paper unless we wise up and start living within our means as a country. I think we should flush Washington down the toilet and start all over. Bill
YES!! Now all we need to do is to get everyone to make it happen!!! The US Dollar has become worthless. No one oversees wants it anymore like they use to.
evildog wrote:Other thing to watch for is all these "new" mosin owners that we see buying up mosins because they were cheap and they wanted a big boom stick that was also cheap to shoot. Once all that cheap ammo is harder to get or all but gone then they are not going to want to reload for it or pay the big price of commerical ammo to feed them. That's when we swoop in and pick them up at what they paid for them back when they were $99.
Just my
I have great hopes for a bunch of Mosins walking in the door over the next few years because of these guys. Ammo? No problem!
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Yeah i could NEVER part with any of my guns.. buy more .. definatly.. sell them.. NEVER
I just REALLY need to start gettin into reloading..Ive never done it. I looked into some of the equipment but everything for that is sold out down here atm. Just bout as bad as the ammo.
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A_King89 wrote:Yeah i could NEVER part with any of my guns.. buy more .. definatly.. sell them.. NEVER
I just REALLY need to start gettin into reloading..Ive never done it. I looked into some of the equipment but everything for that is sold out down here atm. Just bout as bad as the ammo.
Troll the back road gun shops, you would be amazed what you can find and i've been lucky that work takes me into Missouri alot and there seems to be only alittle shortage there. Besides i've seen lots of 7.62x54r dies in most shops. Presses are available but the big thing if your getting into it is primers. You can get the powder and equipment later but primers is a must....
I'm wondering what the next milsurps will be. What do you think? We have pretty much run through the bolt action rifles, there are not a lot of reasonable semi-autos except for the SKS. I missed my chance for a M1 carbine, . They are just too expensive. I would spend that money on a nice P17. I suspect we will cycle down and the converted military stuff will drop a little. I predict $500 AK's will come back. However, What happens when the only things left are full auto-military rifles? Most pistols are still semi auto. Might start stocking up on Makarovs and Hi-Power clones.
Another thing that is going up (at least here in Maryland) is fees. I just paid a transfer fee for a pistol and a Maryland State Police fee for a background check and that went up from $50.00 the last time I did it to $85.00 today. They are adding more requirements and fees effective October 1st, 2013 so I guess anything else modern and regulated (Pistols and AR's and the like) that I want I'll be getting in the next couple of months.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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polymerase2 wrote:I'm wondering what the next milsurps will be. What do you think? We have pretty much run through the bolt action rifles, there are not a lot of reasonable semi-autos except for the SKS. I missed my chance for a M1 carbine, . They are just too expensive. I would spend that money on a nice P17. I suspect we will cycle down and the converted military stuff will drop a little. I predict $500 AK's will come back. However, What happens when the only things left are full auto-military rifles? Most pistols are still semi auto. Might start stocking up on Makarovs and Hi-Power clones.
What happens is the end of the gravy train, and it's happening right now, there are no large stockpiles of milsurps to import that can be imported.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
It seems like the new normal is to trickle in just enough inventory to last a day or two, then they are out again. It's the same thing that's happening in the stores with ammo. I stopped by the local Academy Sports at lunchtime to check on ammo. They said you are too late. We got in some 9mm this morning but it is sold out. This is the kind of crap that just keeps feeding the insanity. It looks like the panic buying is just feeding the monster and keeping him alive.
Will they accept a prepay? Here's a C note, I want the next three or four boxes of 9mm that walk in the door.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Will they accept a prepay? Here's a C note, I want the next three or four boxes of 9mm that walk in the door.
They might if you know the store owner of the gunshop....i doubt a big box store will unless you befriend some employees like i have at Dunhams to let you know when it's coming in or let you snoop in the backroom...
Take the day off work and just sit there waiting like the people the day before Christmas lined up at the door to get the one available $60 50" LCD TV
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
I realize that these Mosin are what they are. I'm just a little anal about knowing what condition each of my guns are in and was hoping for some guideline to base my guns on. So far I made a head space gauge whick worked out great. The bore gauge I made puts all 3 of my guns at about .306, one is counterbored. Only have test one at the range, and yes it does shoot good.
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