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Thanks man! One was already finished, the other was as rough out of the mold as I've ever seen. Took a ton of work to smooth it out and get it polished. Looks nothing like it did when I got it. Sure is fun to shoot though!sbkittrell wrote:Sweet. Brass frames are sexy, I don't care what people say about them.
Quite right my friend! Both of mine were kit guns, nothing wrong with that, they shoot fine. It did take a lot of work to get the lighter gripped one to look good, but it was a labor of love. BTW, the manual for the FLLI. Pietta brass-frames states that the max. load is 14 grains of FFFG, so I usually shoot mine at either 12 or 13. Only did the max. load once. No problem with it, just didn't want to push things too far. The old long-toms are pretty accurate, and are a hoot to shoot.Junk Yard Dog wrote:The rough model was probably sold as a kit gun, the kits left some finishing work to be done, but you could still put the revolver together and shoot it without making it look nice. Nothing wrong with brass frame revolvers so long as you keep the loads on the lighter side, 22-25 grains of FFFG in a .44, a steady diet of heavy loads will cause the frame to take a battering and stretch out of shape, causing the revolver to become loose, and out of time. None of these brass frame models were "reb" revolvers in real life, the South did make some brass frame revolvers, but not copy's of Remington 1858's or Colt's, they are Italian creations for the US market.
Thanks for that info. JYD! I have only used Goex, as that's what came with the shooting kit I bought. I don't shoot black powder much at all, but I'm leaning toward a little more often! Where's the best place to get "real black powder". And if you've used it, what would be the max. safe load of Goex behind a ball on a brass frame? Do you use patches between ball and powder, or just seat the ball onto the powder? My experience is fairly limited, so please elaborate if you would.Junk Yard Dog wrote:14 grains would be the minimum load required for the ram to push the ball onto the powder and leave no gap, I have shot two Pietta brassers for many years, you are safe at 20 grains of real black powder, the subs are more powerful, another reason not to use them. You are safe at 25-30 grains also for now and then hunting rabbits or whatever, just not something to do all the time. The Pietta is a solid revolver, it's the ASM's and a few other small brands that had problems. I find that my Pietta brasser Colt .44's like 22 grains, they shoot very well with that load, but every revolver will have it's own sweet load, my Uberti '60 Army likes 30 grains, the Dragoon 45 grains. The manuals always give light loads so you learn to walk with them before you run, the originals were loaded by filling the chamber with powder leaving just enough space for the ball, that's if you didn't spend for the paper cartridges.
I bet it would shoot loose over time!Junk Yard Dog wrote:22 Grains would be all right in the brasser, I use a Wonder Wad under the ball to seal up the chamber to help prevent chain fires. With the Wonder Wad no lube is needed over the ball. Experiment with the charge, load some at 15, or 17, 20, and see if the shot groups tighten up on the target. As for Holy Black, I get mine, Goex, from Graf and sons. The law will allow you to order up to 50 pounds to your home without any license, but you can only use it for yourself, or pass it out to family members, you can not sell it. There is a Haz-Mat fee of $25 per shipment on top of ordinary shipping, the fee is the same if you buy one can or fifty, Grafs will let you mix powder brands, and grain sizes in the same load, but you can only ship BP with BP, no smokeless, no caps.
I have gone up to 30 grains in the brasser, I saw no improvement over 22 grains, the revolver will handle 30 grains, but a steady diet like that will cause it to shoot loose eventually