Hi everyone,
I picked up this 1934 Tula with a few quirks and wanted to see if anyone knew whether this rifle was refurbished/field repaired vs just messed by an individual with at some point in its history.
It's all matching minus the bolt which is either unnumbered or the serial has been scrubbed. The stock also appears to have been sanded as the Tula cartouche is barely visible. It also doesn't have any import mark that I can find.
Thanks!
1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
Any SA marks?
Looks to be a non refurb
Looks to be a non refurb
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
No import marks? Nothing that is stamped " made in USSR, or URRS " ? I note a non Soviet standard spring hanger that could be Finn, or Spanish. Sometimes they screwed up the details and forgot stuff, leaving out a bolt serial number is not outside the realm of possibility. Definetly does not look like a Soviet style finish, the darker color looks more Finn, or Spanish going by similar rifles with that known. heritage in my own collection.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
Thanks for the replies! Yeah I took it apart this morning with no import marks found anywhere. I haven't found any Finn markings either, but I do agree that the stock finish looks like a lot of the Finn rifles I've seen. Do you think that the serial on the bolt looks to be scrubbed down vs not added?
Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
Austrian-Hungarian MN's also had wire sling hangers, and there were some Balkans rifles that had them also. But I agree the look of the stock makes one think Finnish in origin.
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
If you are in the US then the lack of any import mark would mean the rifle was imported into the country before 1968 when import marks were mandated by law on imported firearms. I don't recall if Finland had let go of any Mosins to the surplus market yet before 1968, but Spain for sure did. That was the first big lot of surplus Mosins to come in, all of them Soviet aid rifles sent to the Republican side during Spains civil war 1936-39. The 1934 date does put this rifle in the right range of years. The bolt looks to have an even patina, and I see no sign of the heavy grinding needed to remove the deeply stamped numbers, but there is only so much I can tell from a picture.
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
It's definitely a bit of a funky rifle, it seems like SCW is probably the most likely origin despite it missing a lot of the tell tale signs minus the sling hanger and sanded stock though it definitely could be an unmarked Finn.
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Re: 1934 Tula Mosin w/ No Serial on Bolt
No serial number on bolt could be anything. Repair in field, in arsenal, or just missed. I've seen all of those happen.
The rear sling wire remind me more of Finn then anything else.
Well, lots of question there.
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The rear sling wire remind me more of Finn then anything else.
Well, lots of question there.
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