1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
How can I verify the year and make of my M38? There are a lot of numbers stamped on it and I want to make sure I'm not misrepresenting what it is when I sell it. I posted pics on this site a few years ago and was told it was a 1945 Izhevsk M38 with a laminated M44 stock. I can send pics again or you can probably find them in my previous posts. Thank you for your time.
Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
1945
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Thank you! I read that the 1945 is more difficult to find than other years, so I figured it was too good to be true that it was actually a 1945. The year stamp isn't very good, but now that you pointed it out I can see a faint 1945 on the rifle.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Best bet is to check the tang date. A lot of 43 dated mosins, m38s included, have poorly struck dates that make the numbers resemble 1945 instead. In45 dated mosins tend to have very nicely struck dates in my observation.
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I didn't locate any numbers on the tang, but thank you for the advice. Two members previously indicated it is a 1945 based upon the pictures I've posted, so I'm going to go with that unless proven differently. I just didn't want to falsely advertise something.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Underside of the tang, you have to remove the action from the wood and flip it over. If you found the date on the barrel then you already know it's a 1945. Sometimes the Soviets reused older receivers, or leftovers from the previous year. The tang date, if it's there, would tell you that.Beeps905 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:23 pm 20221219_092645.jpg
I didn't locate any numbers on the tang, but thank you for the advice. Two members previously indicated it is a 1945 based upon the pictures I've posted, so I'm going to go with that unless proven differently. I just didn't want to falsely advertise something.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Thank you
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
If the underside of the tang isn't marked, try going over the date with a white crayon lightly.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Could be. Has he posted the tang date yet?
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Nice one. Be careful, they can be addictive. I have one for each year and a Tula factory also and they are in the correct stock for the year. Once you start, you can't stop. I would post a photo but I don't know how. Being a 1945, that laminated 1944 stock can certainly be the correct stock for that year.
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Re: 1945 Izhevsk M38 Verification
Only real rare M38's are the 1940 Tula.
And, any Finn captured M38's
Darryl
And, any Finn captured M38's
Darryl