It sounds like a Finn capture 91/30. Pretty common, but nice to have since they avoided the Russian refurb. Sometimes you find them with Finnish stocks. Post some pics and let us see it.rumjungle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:37 am New guy here. I have a 91/30 that for the life of me I can't figure out. It shoots like my old M39 (sold long ago), but has Izhevsk markings with an SA in is box. There is a 41 stamped on the side of the which I've read means Russian capture. Could it be a Izhevsk that was converted by the Finnish?
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Very nice.
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Hi , I recently joined the forum . I have three Finn Mosins , a VKT Model 39 , 1941 , a 1931 Tika Model 27 and just recently got a 1939 Sako Model 28/30 . My interest in the Finn Mosins started because my father was in the 10th MTN Division in WWII . The 10TH studied the Finn's tactics in ski warfare and had Finnish Officers come and give talks on their tactics . I have two questions . Is it true most of the aluminum barrel sleeves were removed at the time of a re build ? Were the sleeves really that effective ? Does anyone have a sleeve for sale ? My 28/30 is missing the bushing , but was a rebuild . Why did they stop stamping the Civil Guard numbers on the right side of the receiver and just have a S ? Thanks for any info to my questions .
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Hello,
I am new to the board and these Mosin Nagant rifles in general. I had a question. I was helping one of my friends clear out a closet due to her uncle passing away, and we found a rifle (Looks like a Mosin Nagant) in there. I'm not sure what type it is because I have never seen the type of front and rear sights it has. Also, I don't think it's in the original wood stock or they/he painted it black.
https://ibb.co/CsMbdbh
https://ibb.co/2ZpFsDT
https://ibb.co/QK6N0df
https://ibb.co/WFfcgxz
I am new to the board and these Mosin Nagant rifles in general. I had a question. I was helping one of my friends clear out a closet due to her uncle passing away, and we found a rifle (Looks like a Mosin Nagant) in there. I'm not sure what type it is because I have never seen the type of front and rear sights it has. Also, I don't think it's in the original wood stock or they/he painted it black.
https://ibb.co/CsMbdbh
https://ibb.co/2ZpFsDT
https://ibb.co/QK6N0df
https://ibb.co/WFfcgxz
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Looks like it started life as a 1937 Tula 91/30. I sadly appears to have been sporterized. It probably still shoots well, but collector value is basically nil.hukssss wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:05 pm Hello,
I am new to the board and these Mosin Nagant rifles in general. I had a question. I was helping one of my friends clear out a closet due to her uncle passing away, and we found a rifle (Looks like a Mosin Nagant) in there. I'm not sure what type it is because I have never seen the type of front and rear sights it has. Also, I don't think it's in the original wood stock or they/he painted it black.
https://ibb.co/CsMbdbh
https://ibb.co/2ZpFsDT
https://ibb.co/QK6N0df
https://ibb.co/WFfcgxz
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Ughh.. I figured as much. Thank you. Are the sights original?millman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:38 pmLooks like it started life as a 1937 Tula 91/30. I sadly appears to have been sporterized. It probably still shoots well, but collector value is basically nil.hukssss wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:05 pm Hello,
I am new to the board and these Mosin Nagant rifles in general. I had a question. I was helping one of my friends clear out a closet due to her uncle passing away, and we found a rifle (Looks like a Mosin Nagant) in there. I'm not sure what type it is because I have never seen the type of front and rear sights it has. Also, I don't think it's in the original wood stock or they/he painted it black.
https://ibb.co/CsMbdbh
https://ibb.co/2ZpFsDT
https://ibb.co/QK6N0df
https://ibb.co/WFfcgxz
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No.hukssss wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:46 pmUghh.. I figured as much. Thank you. Are the sights original?millman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:38 pmLooks like it started life as a 1937 Tula 91/30. I sadly appears to have been sporterized. It probably still shoots well, but collector value is basically nil.hukssss wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:05 pm Hello,
I am new to the board and these Mosin Nagant rifles in general. I had a question. I was helping one of my friends clear out a closet due to her uncle passing away, and we found a rifle (Looks like a Mosin Nagant) in there. I'm not sure what type it is because I have never seen the type of front and rear sights it has. Also, I don't think it's in the original wood stock or they/he painted it black.
https://ibb.co/CsMbdbh
https://ibb.co/2ZpFsDT
https://ibb.co/QK6N0df
https://ibb.co/WFfcgxz
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hello,I'm Chris aka kris++, have a couple of 91/30. Live in the Sth Island of New Zealand.
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Hello! About two months ago I purchased my first firearm a 1944 m44 in great condition. I have been having some issues with the gun however. When I load 5 rounds often the bolt will not close when a round is chambered. This happens to 1-2 of the 5 rounds and sometimes the other rounds make the bolt hard to close. I have taken the stock off and cleaned the chamber with boiling water and a shotgun brass brush. I have also cleaned the extractor and bolt as well. I tried both wolf ammo and Yugoslav surplus rounds but to no avail. Could this be headspace? Possibly a new extractor? Any information is helpful. I also can’t seem to figure out how to post a picture.
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It could be gunk under the extractor keeping it from going over the rim. It could also be a damaged extractor. Pics might help us determine the issue. Also check that the interrupter is working and that you aren't getting rimlock.14sutten wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:06 pm Hello! About two months ago I purchased my first firearm a 1944 m44 in great condition. I have been having some issues with the gun however. When I load 5 rounds often the bolt will not close when a round is chambered. This happens to 1-2 of the 5 rounds and sometimes the other rounds make the bolt hard to close. I have taken the stock off and cleaned the chamber with boiling water and a shotgun brass brush. I have also cleaned the extractor and bolt as well. I tried both wolf ammo and Yugoslav surplus rounds but to no avail. Could this be headspace? Possibly a new extractor? Any information is helpful. I also can’t seem to figure out how to post a picture.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I did clean underneath the extractor and that is free of debris. I know it is not getting rim lock as the rounds feed fine and I hand load them to avoid this problem. I am unsure how to post pictures? When I press the picture button it just says image in the article?
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Hi, my name is Gary I live in N.C.. I have one M/28 and one M 28/30.
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I have had a couple Of Mosin Nagants for several years, but I haven't done anything with them. I have a Tula 1943 91 30 and a 1931 Hex Russian 91 30 still in the box that I haven't taken out to see if it's a Tula or not. I sold one to a young woman and went with her so that she could shoot it. She really loved the rifle and although it has been a few years ago, she wants me to take her shooting again.
I am 75 years old, and I have been fighting Agent Orange and I have had Quadruple Bypass surgery due to ischemic heart disease. I also have had Stage four kidney cancer which I have beaten for 7 years come Feb. 5th, 2023. I have started to thin out my gun cabinet of a few rifles and pistols that I don't shoot. I am going to get more familiar with the Forums before I add much else. I am married to Cathy, and I have a 31-year-old daughter Heather, two Grandsons and a good son in law. I am into MOPAR muscle cars, and I still Drag race. I still work and I get around quite well and I look forward to getting some questions answered in the near future. Thank you for allowing me to join. PJ
I am 75 years old, and I have been fighting Agent Orange and I have had Quadruple Bypass surgery due to ischemic heart disease. I also have had Stage four kidney cancer which I have beaten for 7 years come Feb. 5th, 2023. I have started to thin out my gun cabinet of a few rifles and pistols that I don't shoot. I am going to get more familiar with the Forums before I add much else. I am married to Cathy, and I have a 31-year-old daughter Heather, two Grandsons and a good son in law. I am into MOPAR muscle cars, and I still Drag race. I still work and I get around quite well and I look forward to getting some questions answered in the near future. Thank you for allowing me to join. PJ
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I’m new today 12/2022. Have owned Mosins since 2010 . Moved away from them to punch paper in rimfire. Old eyes have set in so now I’m playing with my firearms collection . Down to only 3 but in 2010 had 26.
My son married a fine little gal that happens to be rich in Russian descendants. The twin grandsons are now at an age that will allow me to pass a couple of 1895 mosins to them
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My son married a fine little gal that happens to be rich in Russian descendants. The twin grandsons are now at an age that will allow me to pass a couple of 1895 mosins to them
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New here! I recently purchased my first Russian Mosin Nagant (Izhevsk arsenal) and have seen (elsewhere) many differing opinions about refinishing, etc. Personally, I have always tended to lean toward the "leave it alone" camp. I own several military surplus rifles and pistols and have resisted the urge to "pretty them up". I hate the idea of undoing decades of history for the sake of a shiny stock. It's good to have your "gut feeling" about these issues affirmed. I think I'm going to like it here!
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Yes. Leave it alone is good.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hey, I've been curious to learn about an old rifle with lots of tiny little stamps all over it & I believe this site has the info on these old Russian beauties. Glad I found it. Not much info on the 20 yrs ago or so when I found her. Looking forward to spending some time researching here. Thanks!