I've always heard those described as Number 5 Jungle Carbines. I don't know the nomenclature, but they are obviously very different.steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:33 pm Enfield nirvana, I just hit level 3. I meant the WW2 carbines, is their name Mk. V ?
Enfield No1 MkV
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WW2 is No5 MkI and then the really rare No5 Mk2 I had a Mk2 but couldn't turn down the offer I got for it. I have pics still. Yes the No5 MkI is called Jungle Carbinesteelbuttplate wrote: Enfield nirvana, I just hit level 3. I meant the WW2 carbines, is their name Mk. V ?
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First is No5 MkI the other is the only 50 made No5 MkII there was also 50 made of a similar type. They were being made for grenade launching. The main difference is internally.
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How can You tell if one is a No. 2. I think mine was made in '46.
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The model number on the rail. Everyone at the auction including Fat Scotty from Pre-98 thought that it was a serial number. They didn't realize it was the model with the X designating Experimental. I never put my hand down. Won it for $700 no premium. He says to me a lot to pay for a Jungle Carbine, I replied yeah it would be a lot for a No5 MkI except that it is an Experimental Grenade Rifle MkII only 50 made and only half survived.steelbuttplate wrote:How can You tell if one is a No. 2. I think mine was made in '46.
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No.2s are .22 SMLEs. The No5 Mk2 is a No5 carbine with the trigger mounted to the action body instead of the trigger guard. It would be marked on the side, and the forend would have a cross screw instead of the tie plate at the wrist.steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:34 am How can You tell if one is a No. 2. I think mine was made in '46.
Pre-1926 you have the MLM, MLE, LMC, LEC, and SMLE series along with a variety of .22 rifles. In 1926 the SMLE became the No1; but only the MkIII and MkIII* were kept in vocabulary. That means it is never correct to refer to the SMLE MkI, ConD II, ConD IV, and MkV rifles as No1s. At the same time, certain .22 rifles became the No2 (only No2 MkIV and MkIV* were kept in vocabulary), and the P14 became the No3. On the other side of that, the No1 MkVI is never called an SMLE MkVI because it came about after the change in vocabulary.
In mid 1945, Marks changed from Roman numerals to Arabic numerals, so the No4 MkI became the No4 Mk1, the next model being the No4 Mk2 instead of MkII.
British designations are a bit of a mess but they make sense once you get the hang of them.