Semi auto thought.
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Semi auto thought.
If you were to grab the slide of a semi auto pointed right in your reach but not at you, with a death grip, and it fired, would it cycle another round ?
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Re: Semi auto thought.
I would think probably not. You will get hurt trying to find out
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I don't think you'd be alive to know...
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Dep ends on a lot of factors, Buttttt, the round coming out has to go somewhere
Dat one gonna hurt.
Dat one gonna hurt.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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"I think Congressmen should wear uniforms,
you know, like NASCAR drivers, so we could
identify their corporate sponsors."
"When I die, I want to be facing my enemies surrounded by their dead bodies and piles of spent brass"
"Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain
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Re: Semi auto thought.
Thats what I'm thinking, if you're in a fight and an automatic comes out and the first round hits the ground because you have a good hold on it, it wouldn't cycle. I'm not gonna test this theory. It's a Last ditch scenario.
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Re: Semi auto thought.
Maybe and maybe not. In that scenario, your goal should be controlling the direction of the muzzle-keeping it pointed away from you as much as possible.
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Steel - would not cycle. And you will not be hurt by slide (not much - depends on front blade sharp edge) ! Remember german WWII "last shot" from barrel and slide of disassembled but loaded P08? It is nothing harmfull shoot it from hand - recoil is very mild.
Just look: shot
Just look: shot
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“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
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I'm with ironnewt. Depends on many factors. The energy in the round being the main one I'd consider. That would relate then to compensating recoil spring strength, gas port size if applicable etc. I'd perhaps try a .22 with standard (~700FPS / 36-40 grain) ammo, but I wouldn't start the experiment with say 230 grain .45ACP
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It's going to fire, but I think it would jam the action and prevent it from firing again until you let go. Your grip would either prevent the slide from racking back, or prevent the slide from sliding forward into battery. Either prevents the second shot from happening.
I think it would hurt your hand. Probably not severely, but it wouldn't be pleasant.
If you were in a hand to hand struggle with somebody who was trying to shoot you, like if you were struggling around on the floor for control of the gun, grabbing the slide and holding the gun away from you might be a pretty good tactic to save yourself from being shot. They might fire a shot, but the gun would not be able to fire again, perhaps allowing you to gain control of the situation.
Something to try on our own? No...maybe with heavy gloves. Something to keep in the back of your mind? Yes.
I think it would hurt your hand. Probably not severely, but it wouldn't be pleasant.
If you were in a hand to hand struggle with somebody who was trying to shoot you, like if you were struggling around on the floor for control of the gun, grabbing the slide and holding the gun away from you might be a pretty good tactic to save yourself from being shot. They might fire a shot, but the gun would not be able to fire again, perhaps allowing you to gain control of the situation.
Something to try on our own? No...maybe with heavy gloves. Something to keep in the back of your mind? Yes.
I'm just here for the free coffee mug and tee shirt. 
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I doubt it would eject and reload properly. If you held the slide solidly, the frame would attempt to recoil forward, it would probably be painful on the trigger finger. My personal philosophy is to avoid such experiments, as well as avoiding gunfights at point-blank range. I would rather stand back, behind cover and shoot the victim in the back, multiple times if necessary. Survival has no ethics. ;)
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There are no rules in street fighting, dirt in the eye's, kick in the nutsack, bullet in the back, whatever it takes as the prize is survival.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Semi auto thought.
Hello, ^^^^^^^ Very, true. Jim the Boss.
That's my way at looking at it also(street fight). You don't ever know what the others guys going too do. So, it's your job too come out of it alive from the get go... Flight or fight, in that order: if, given the option.
"I feared for my life or great bodily injuries. Therefor, I shot him dead" Officer..... That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
That's my way at looking at it also(street fight). You don't ever know what the others guys going too do. So, it's your job too come out of it alive from the get go... Flight or fight, in that order: if, given the option.
"I feared for my life or great bodily injuries. Therefor, I shot him dead" Officer..... That's my story and I'm sticking with it.