I thought I'd share an interesting Mosin I picked up at the weekend.
It is an all matching 1917 Remington M91 was shipped to Russia, captured by the Germans early in its career and fitted with an ersatz bayonet adapter and ended up sending it to Finland as war aid to the White Finns during the Finnish Civil War.The consensus against Finnish collectors is that judging by the lack of subsequent modifications, alterations or Finnish property marks it is highly likely that it was taken home and squirrelled away by someone at the end of the Civil War and it never entered the Finnish military system.The previous owner imported it directly from Finland.
As I said it is all matching*, all the bolt assembly components are Remington marked and the stock/handguard are all original.
The chamber, bore and muzzle and in very good condition and the muzzle has its original crown so I have a feeling she'll be a good shooter.
The bayonet adapter appears to be a different type to all the photos of others I can find on the 'net but appears to be very well made.The original screw is missing but the adapter has been on so long it doesnt move so I don't think it is going anywhere without it although a friend who collects and restores old German clocks has found me a period screw in his vast collection of spare bits and bobs that fits the thread perfectly and looks made for the job!
* when I say all matching I mean the barrel shank/bolt body/cocking piece and buttplate all match......but the magazine floorplate is one digit out!.It appears that someone at Remington had their mind on other things (a date with Mary Lou that night?) one day in 1917 and either fitted the floorplate destined for the next rifle on the line or picked up the wrong number punch!.I guess we'll never know the reason but a fascinating oversight.
1917 Remington with German ersatz bayonet adapter
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A great find, first ever shown here with that bayonet mount.
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I'd like to rub some Rem-oil on that. " There are two kinds of people, the good people and the ones that aggravate the hell out of the good people"
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That is a great find! 
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Nice find, beautiful rifle, thanks for posting. I have never seen or heard of a Mosin rifle with a bayonet adapter for a blade bayonet. Are you sure it's for a German bayonet, any chance the adapter fits a P14/17 or even an 03 bayonet, rifles that did not ship to Russia were used for training in the U.S. why I am asking? Have any bayonets fitted to the rifle yet? A pic of a Mosin with a blade bayonet would be great to see.
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A friend of mine has two WWI German ersatz bayonets that fit it perfectly and this particular rifle definitely made it to Russia as it was captured by the Germans and then sent to Finland.etprescottazusa91 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:17 am Nice find, beautiful rifle, thanks for posting. I have never seen or heard of a Mosin rifle with a bayonet adapter for a blade bayonet. Are you sure it's for a German bayonet, any chance the adapter fits a P14/17 or even an 03 bayonet, rifles that did not ship to Russia were used for training in the U.S. why I am asking? Have any bayonets fitted to the rifle yet? A pic of a Mosin with a blade bayonet would be great to see.
Here's a pic of what seems to be the more commonly found type of German ersatz bayonet adapter......
Here you go, German Kaiserliche Marine with captured M91 with ersatz adapter and blade bayonet, which I think is an EB9 and quite a common German ersatz bayonet.
And another......
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Wow what a interesting rifle, and it appears to still be in the original 54R chambering.
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Taking into account that it is an original all matching Remington with a rare Type II bayonet adapter fitted is it worthy of a place in The Showcase?
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Spectacular. Great find
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Probably. Message administrator Rongo. He is the showcase gatekeeper.Snayperskaya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:45 am Taking into account that it is an original all matching Remington with a rare Type II bayonet adapter fitted is it worthy of a place in The Showcase?
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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That's a Dandy!
Got your PM! Yes, Showcase material For sure.
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"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it". Mark Twain
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Re: 1917 Remington with German ersatz bayonet adapter
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis