Well after much debate on several Lee Enfield & British Firearms forums the verdict is in, and it is all I could hope for.
1st I will start by saying what we thought was a Pakistan Ordnance Factory (POF) stamp on the Butt socket ring turned out to be a badly struck ROF ( Royal Ordnance Factory) stamp, and by the stamping of the No4 Mk1 on the receiver and the serial number it was confirmed it was produced at Fazakerly ROF. I have been told that it is a legit No4 Mk1 (T) that was produced in early in the production run either by Enfield or H&H before the markings' system to become standardized. The rifle went through a arsenal repair indicated by the "FTR /Factory through Repairs" stamp on the butt socket ring and the new Canadian Long Branch barrel dated 44/45. The scope mount is a Rose Brothers and was stamped matching to the rifle during the FTR , (old S/N being AP3754) and is stamped with a "GF /Gujarat Forces-India State forces" indicating the rifle was at some point used in India at some point after the FTR. The scope is the latter model No 32 Mk3 and the front scope pads are properly staked to the receiver. The stock has no markings to denote either Enfield or H&H conversion and has been refinished with an Oil finish which may have been done during its days in India. The rifle has the "BNP" mark (indicating the it was proofed in UK) and "ENGLAND" mark suggesting very strongly that it was so marked for sale as surplus to America pre 1968.
Well there you have it, everything I know to this point but there are still a couple of things I need to do the try and nail down who performed the conversion ( Enfield or H&H) but needles to say I am about as happy as one can be with my latest toy.
Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
Nice one. That England stamp you describe is also on my No5, and that was positively in the USA before 1968 according to the older gent I bought it from 25 years ago.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
It is a shame that you never find any good ones Miller. Keep trying buddy. You are bound to hit it one of these days.
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
Very nice rifle. Just beautiful. 
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
The England stamp is on my 1917 BSA on the receiver, and on the wrist of my No 5 also. Is it uncommon? Very nice sniperJunk Yard Dog wrote:Nice one. That England stamp you describe is also on my No5, and that was positively in the USA before 1968 according to the older gent I bought it from 25 years ago.
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
It's not an official US import marking as such was not required prior to the 1968 amendment of the 1934 National Firearms Act. Proof test mark required by British authorities if I recall right. Some early importers did add things to the rifles, like the SCW Mosins back in the 50's with made in ussr and so on.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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You done good Miller!
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Re: Rare ROF 41 Fazakerly No4 Mk1 (T)
gurn wrote:You done good Miller!
Thank you sir, been a long time coming and I am very pleased with it.
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