Is It Real?
- MosinGunner1102
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Is It Real?
Thinking about picking up this rifle, haven't agreed or found a price yet. Appears to be a 1942 Tula with a rough receiver. Owner thinks it's a romanian PU.
Very interesting rifle to say the least.
Very interesting rifle to say the least.
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1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
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- MosinGunner1102
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Re: Is It Real?
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1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
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Re: Is It Real?
Not sure, aren't the scope adjustments supposed to have flat headed screws?
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- MosinGunner1102
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Re: Is It Real?
I'll double check thatsteelbuttplate wrote:Not sure, aren't the scope adjustments supposed to have flat headed screws?
1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- MosinGunner1102
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Re: Is It Real?
Just checked flat headed screws are on fakes only, they are supposed to be domedsteelbuttplate wrote:Not sure, aren't the scope adjustments supposed to have flat headed screws?
1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- MosinGunner1102
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Re: Is It Real?
Update, its an early century arms import, imported with the scope mount and put together with a scope. Seems to all be legit parts not paying more then 900 for it.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- Lee-online
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Re: Is It Real?
I think the importers serial number with an S designates it as imported as a sniper. M9130S01234
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- Miller Tyme
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Re: Is It Real?
It's a fake, legit scope , repop mount, on a 42 -91/30, not an ex-PU, and nothing about it is Romanian.
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- MosinGunner1102
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I find that interesting because the import mark would be under the scope mount if it was a fake?Miller Tyme wrote:It's a fake, legit scope , repop mount, on a 42 -91/30, not an ex-PU, and nothing about it is Romanian.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- MosinGunner1102
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Also, it has the S in the importer serial number designating it as importing with the mount why would they assemble it like that in ukraine?MosinGunner1102 wrote:I find that interesting because the import mark would be under the scope mount if it was a fake?Miller Tyme wrote:It's a fake, legit scope , repop mount, on a 42 -91/30, not an ex-PU, and nothing about it is Romanian.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- Miller Tyme
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Re: Is It Real?
Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
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- MosinGunner1102
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But whats wrong with the mount, it appears milled correctly im confused.Miller Tyme wrote:Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
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Re: Is It Real?
If you ask a question and get feedback from a major player in the sniper market you should listen. Like MT said, it's your money. Century was famous for making "snipers" from the parts bin.
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- MosinGunner1102
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I wanted the damn thing to be real haha, ive been looking for a PU for a while now, anyone have siggestions on where to find a real one atleast?Longcolt44 wrote:If you ask a question and get feedback from a major player in the sniper market you should listen. Like MT said, it's your money. Century was famous for making "snipers" from the parts bin.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- Longcolt44
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Re: Is It Real?
Just keep looking and in the mean time go to the top of the page and click on the MOSIN SNIPER RIFLE and commit it to memory then hit every auction, gun show and forum sale pages. Then take pictures and ask MT or DOLK again.
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- MosinGunner1102
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I honestly think ill pick up this rifle anyways, the mount isnt a crappy aluminium one and the scope is nice and the rifle is nice aswell. Maybe i can get it for much cheapee knowing it iant 100% legit. Thanks for the info guys.Longcolt44 wrote:Just keep looking and in the mean time go to the top of the page and click on the MOSIN SNIPER RIFLE and commit it to memory then hit every auction, gun show and forum sale pages. Then take pictures and ask MT or DOLK again.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- Miller Tyme
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Yeah it's milled, but the milling marks are on the wrong filping side, but again it's your money.MosinGunner1102 wrote:But whats wrong with the mount, it appears milled correctly im confused.Miller Tyme wrote:Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
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- MosinGunner1102
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I see, what a shame.Miller Tyme wrote:Yeah it's milled, on the wrong filling side, but again it's your money.MosinGunner1102 wrote:But whats wrong with the mount, it appears milled correctly im confused.Miller Tyme wrote:Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
- Darryl
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Re: Is It Real?
I agree completely. Fake sniper rifle. No matter how much you want it to be, it never will be real.Miller Tyme wrote:Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
IF the import marks are under the mount, then ....it is a fake sniper. .......BUT, it doesn't mean that if the import marks are not under the mount that it is automatically real.
Only thing real about that is the scope as far as I can see.
Barrel shanks and receivers are never that "rough" on a sniper rifle. You see that on rough finish on a standard M91/30's, but not snipers.
Again, there is nothing about it that says "Romanian" on that rifle.
Fake
Dolk
.
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I ditched the romanian thing as soon as i laid eyes on it. Typical gun store salesman tactic.dolk wrote:I agree completely. Fake sniper rifle. No matter how much you want it to be, it never will be real.Miller Tyme wrote:Believe me it's not legit, but it's your money sir.
IF the import marks are under the mount, then ....it is a fake sniper. .......BUT, it doesn't mean that if the import marks are not under the mount that it is automatically real.
Only thing real about that is the scope as far as I can see.
Barrel shanks and receivers are never that "rough" on a sniper rifle. You see that on rough finish on a standard M91/30's, but not snipers.
Again, there is nothing about it that says "Romanian" on that rifle.
Fake
Dolk
.
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1941 VKT Finnish M39 (Izhevsk Reciever 1905) "Serena"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"
1927 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant 1891/30 (Updated Dragoon) "Алина"
1938 Tula Mosin Nagant 1891/30 "Надежда"
1945 Izhevsk M1944 Carbine " Сáша"