WTS Model 1907 Carbine

[Pet_My_Mosin]

SOLD

[capt14k]

What was this that sold for $3,500?

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[Pet_My_Mosin]

It was a Model 1907 Carbine.

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[Pet_My_Mosin]

My apologies. It was a Mosin Nagant Model 1907. Not really sure why it matters... it is sold.

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[Junk Yard Dog]

'cause there ain't many of them around and there are lots of collectors who want one. Simple supply and demand, you got one of something and 400,000 collectors want it then you don't have to price it as if it was a 1943 M38 refurb. Somebody out there should be happy they were dealing with this guy, I would have asked for quite a bit more, then again I am a gun hoarder who isn't much inclined to sell anything.

[capt14k]

Now I am confused. The info page says there was 44,000 made of the first variant and 300,000 of the second variation. This is far more than the Finnish carbines, however the price was similar. I'm just curious.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Attrition, these were made very long ago, served in two world wars, a revolution, and had to survive the Soviet era weapons refurbishment programs that rooted out all the rifles with older sights, stocks and such, then updated them. Few 1907's are known to survive compared to any other Mosin carbine, they are almost exclusively older imports, or came in with the Finn and Balkan rifles. WW1 in particular took a heavy toll on the Mosin, millions were lost or captured, then the lean years of the post revolution era when rifles had to serve long past when they should have been refurbished or replaced. Compared to the production totals of Soviet era Mosins of all kinds the 1907 was produced in miniscule amounts even if you combine all it's variations.

[capt14k]

Thank you JYD. So there were many made just not many left? I read it is assumed there are less than 300. Is that in existence or in the United States? If U.S. how many are thought to exist worldwide?

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[NLMosin]

My apologies. It was a Mosin Nagant Model 1907. Not really sure why it matters... it is sold.

[Pet_My_Mosin]

Thank you JYD. So there were many made just not many left? I read it is assumed there are less than 300. Is that in existence or in the United States? If U.S. how many are thought to exist worldwide?

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I believe that is in the world. Most do not have the handguard present and undamaged. I likely could have gotten more putting it up for auction, but needed funds for other things rather quickly. I only considered parting with it because the bolt didn't match and it had been reworked at some point. I own one other and it is all original matching and there probably isnt a number that would make me part with that one.

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[capt14k]

Thank you for the info Pet. I did not know anything about the m/1907 carbine. I only collect Finnish "Made" Mosins, not even Finnish "captured", so I know very little about the Russian ones.

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[Pet_My_Mosin]

Thank you for the info Pet. I did not know anything about the m/1907 carbine. I only collect Finnish "Made" Mosins, not even Finnish "captured", so I know very little about the Russian ones.

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Finns are fabulous. Older Imperial era Russian Mosins are my first love though. Layers upon layers of history.

Thank you JYD. So there were many made just not many left? I read it is assumed there are less than 300. Is that in existence or in the United States? If U.S. how many are thought to exist worldwide?

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I believe that is in the world. Most do not have the handguard present and undamaged. I likely could have gotten more putting it up for auction, but needed funds for other things rather quickly. I only considered parting with it because the bolt didn't match and it had been reworked at some point. I own one other and it is all original matching and there probably isnt a number that would make me part with that one.

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[Junk Yard Dog]

Thank you JYD. So there were many made just not many left? I read it is assumed there are less than 300. Is that in existence or in the United States? If U.S. how many are thought to exist worldwide?

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300 is a guess, like with any milsurp we just don't know for sure, but whatever the number actually is I am sure it's low, a few thousand maybe. In the collecting community we tend to forget that we are only a tiny minority of gun owners, millions of non collector gun owners out there who wouldn't know a 1907 carbine from a regular M38, some might not even know that, to them it's just an old rifle. You have to figure that some of these carbines are in the hands of such owners worldwide and we only learn about them when a collector happens to stumble on one at some little estate auction, or gunshop. Also remember that not all collectors are online sharing what they have collected with the world, I am online but I know 20 or more casual to serious collectors who are not, you will never hear about what they have unless you know them personally, the rare items in their collection are not counted in any "how many exist" poll.

[gurn]

How about http://youtu.be/l91ISfcuzDw

Thank you JYD. So there were many made just not many left? I read it is assumed there are less than 300. Is that in existence or in the United States? If U.S. how many are thought to exist worldwide?

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I believe that is in the world. Most do not have the handguard present and undamaged. I likely could have gotten more putting it up for auction, but needed funds for other things rather quickly. I only considered parting with it because the bolt didn't match and it had been reworked at some point. I own one other and it is all original matching and there probably isnt a number that would make me part with that one.

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[Darryl]

My understanding is, there are less then 100 in the USA.

Passed on two of them over the years. Just to pricey for me to deal with.

[martin08]

'Somebody out there should be happy they were dealing with this guy

Last I checked, Nikki was rather cute, and definitely not a guy!

And the production vs attrition, leading to low supply and high demand, is spot on.

Here are some pics of a bolt matching example. Stock and mag are mismatched.

[Junk Yard Dog]

'Somebody out there should be happy they were dealing with this guy

Last I checked, Nikki was rather cute, and definitely not a guy!

And the production vs attrition, leading to low supply and high demand, is spot on.

Here are some pics of a bolt matching example. Stock and mag are mismatched.

Sorry, the OP is not known to me. As I have gotten older I have gotten much less inclined to spend money on anything, years back yea, all the time I was dropping a g on this, two g on that. That's why I have my collection today, but eventually you end up with stuff jammed in every available spot, so much crap I can't even remember what I have anymore. Now I am a very hard sell, I would rather that you buy it, store it, care for it, and I can see all the cool pictures

[SA1911a1]

So does that 300 figure include the case of them, rusting in the barn, that I bought in '87? Just asking....

[Junk Yard Dog]

Nothing left in that case but dust and rat crap Steve, we sneaked them out of there years ago.