NICS delay..
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NICS delay..
Can't take her home for another week.. Is there a support group for that?
Re: NICS delay..
Not that I know of. Is the problem NICS, or some Missouri state law?
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Re: NICS delay..
I've never had a problem with NICS. Walk in, fill out paperwork, wait for them to make the call and pay on the way out. Did they give you a reason for the wait?
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Re: NICS delay..
I think the problem is a valid one. I'm a permanent resident, not a citizen of the US yet.. I can own firearms legally, but every time I buy one they put me on hold.. Freaks me out a little, I read horror stories of people having to go through the appeals process after being denied. Hoping that will change when the papers come through.
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I'm guessing it's something most of you guys don't have to deal with all that often..
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I am a permanent resident here in CO and never had an issue. Mine takes the same time as the guy in front of me.
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It's the same deal for me, it's always approved within 24 hours (business time, weekends don't count), sometimes it only takes 20 minutes, can you get the store to call back and check on it? Everywhere I buy from will do that for me.Chiroptile wrote:I think the problem is a valid one. I'm a permanent resident, not a citizen of the US yet.. I can own firearms legally, but every time I buy one they put me on hold.. Freaks me out a little, I read horror stories of people having to go through the appeals process after being denied. Hoping that will change when the papers come through.
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Re: NICS delay..
That's weird.. It's like clockwork with me. Every single time, without fail.. Figured we've been through this enough times by now that they would just let me walk out with it..
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Mike wrote:It's the same deal for me, it's always approved within 24 hours (business time, weekends don't count), sometimes it only takes 20 minutes, can you get the store to call back and check on it? Everywhere I buy from will do that for me.Chiroptile wrote:I think the problem is a valid one. I'm a permanent resident, not a citizen of the US yet.. I can own firearms legally, but every time I buy one they put me on hold.. Freaks me out a little, I read horror stories of people having to go through the appeals process after being denied. Hoping that will change when the papers come through.
Oh yeah.. They'll be getting daily visits from me until I can take her home.
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Same with me, always "further review".Chiroptile wrote:That's weird.. It's like clockwork with me. Every single time, without fail.. Figured we've been through this enough times by now that they would just let me walk out with it..
1932 Izhevsk M91/30
1940 Tula M91/30
1941 Tula Nagant Revolver
1942 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M91/30
1944 Izhevsk M44
1952 Polish M44
1954 Chinese T53
1940 Tula M91/30
1941 Tula Nagant Revolver
1942 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M91/30
1944 Izhevsk M44
1952 Polish M44
1954 Chinese T53
Re: NICS delay..
When I buy a rifle I never put my ss# on the fed application.. I ALWAYS get bumped into further review, every single time !! It's not a big deal, and has never cost me a rifle. Just a PIA !
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I wonder if country of citizenship has anything to do with it..Mike wrote:Same with me, always "further review".Chiroptile wrote:That's weird.. It's like clockwork with me. Every single time, without fail.. Figured we've been through this enough times by now that they would just let me walk out with it..
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Re: NICS delay..
Never had to deal with the new insta check system. It didn't exist back when I bought guns from guns stores, wasn't something a C&R required me to deal with, and 90% of my collection was private party sale .
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: NICS delay..
I have a CCW, so in KY (perhaps everywhere?) the gunshop can just use the ccw # in place of the number that they would receive from NICS. Most places realize this is much less hassle to both parties, but some like Dunhams or Wally world will not. They always require a call. Even at that, I have never had any issue. Cash and go.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
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Re: NICS delay..
Azerbaijan? I don't know that it would, but who knows.Chiroptile wrote:I wonder if country of citizenship has anything to do with it..Mike wrote:Same with me, always "further review".Chiroptile wrote:That's weird.. It's like clockwork with me. Every single time, without fail.. Figured we've been through this enough times by now that they would just let me walk out with it..
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: NICS delay..
Chiro, old buddy, maybe it's because the Feds know you speak Russian:
Re: Russina Song about the Mosin Nagant
by Chiroptile » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:44 pm
If you guys are curious, I'll translate the song for you.. Russian and English have very different grammatical structures, and I will keep it as close to the Russian wording as possible, so it will come off crude..
AND Arabic:
Re: Mosins in modern warfare
by Chiroptile » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:27 pm
Loditrapper wrote:
I wish I could read what's written on the stock of that Mosin.
And I wonder if those Northern Alliance guys are still on our side.
That Mosin may be aiming at my son in law right now, for all I know.
I checked into that.. The inscription says "I am talking of Ramin," Which is a man's name.. Makes you wonder right there..
The symbol in red is the number four.
Man, you know that if they're following our phone calls and emails, they've got to be watching a site like this. Heck, seems like Junk Yard Dog has enough armament to equip a brigade himself. I just know that with your skill set, I'm glad you're on our side, partner.
Re: Russina Song about the Mosin Nagant
by Chiroptile » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:44 pm
If you guys are curious, I'll translate the song for you.. Russian and English have very different grammatical structures, and I will keep it as close to the Russian wording as possible, so it will come off crude..
AND Arabic:
Re: Mosins in modern warfare
by Chiroptile » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:27 pm
Loditrapper wrote:
I wish I could read what's written on the stock of that Mosin.
And I wonder if those Northern Alliance guys are still on our side.
That Mosin may be aiming at my son in law right now, for all I know.
I checked into that.. The inscription says "I am talking of Ramin," Which is a man's name.. Makes you wonder right there..
The symbol in red is the number four.
Man, you know that if they're following our phone calls and emails, they've got to be watching a site like this. Heck, seems like Junk Yard Dog has enough armament to equip a brigade himself. I just know that with your skill set, I'm glad you're on our side, partner.
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Re: NICS delay..
Yessir.. Heh, this being a Mosin site, perhaps this would have been a little more appropriateJunk Yard Dog wrote: Azerbaijan? I don't know that it would, but who knows.
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Re: NICS delay..
millman wrote:I have a CCW, so in KY (perhaps everywhere?) the gunshop can just use the ccw # in place of the number that they would receive from NICS. Most places realize this is much less hassle to both parties, but some like Dunhams or Wally world will not. They always require a call. Even at that, I have never had any issue. Cash and go.
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Re: NICS delay..
Lodi, I honestly would not be surprised. Very odd feeling, considering that I caught the tail end of life the USSR where even as little kids we knew not to talk about certain things out on the street, because somebody could be listening.. mm
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Re: NICS delay..
Hey,
I never buy anything from a GUN STORE nor do I or will i ever fill out a ATF4473 form,,I buy all the GUNS i LOST in the Boating accident when they all fell overboard from Private parties,,,,,,,heh
Regards,
AL
I never buy anything from a GUN STORE nor do I or will i ever fill out a ATF4473 form,,I buy all the GUNS i LOST in the Boating accident when they all fell overboard from Private parties,,,,,,,heh
Regards,
AL
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91/30 1943 Mosin Counterbore
91/30 1943 Mosin
.22 Marlin 25N Rifle
.22 Ruger Mark 3 Slabside competition
CZ40B .40 s/w
Taurus PT-92AF 9mm
Iver Johnson 16ga single shot Champion Model
SKS Chinese Security Force 7.62x39