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Ben Bowyang
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http://usedguns.com.au/used_military_rifles.html

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Make: Tikkakoski Oy
Hexagonal receiver, barrel dated 1941. Bright bore with very good rifling. Finish Army property marks and chamber marked, 'Afghanistan'. Mismatched serial numbers. No rod however sling is included.

What do you make of the 'Afghanistan' marking on the receiver?
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That is pretty neat. I haven't a clue about Afganistan.

Does this one have a tang date?
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SA1911a1 wrote:Does this one have a tang date?
It's not mentioned in the ad and at this point I haven't enquired further.
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Kinda spendy if you ask me. I just picked up a Finn M91 for $150. Finn or Finned M91's are all over the place way South of $400 right now. For that money, you could contact Dennis at Empire & he could set you up with a beauty. That one looks to be a bit much.Afghanistan stampings??? Never heard of them... I always thought they were marked upon arrival with Donkey Dung, not stampings. But who knows??? I'm surely not an expert. :roll: :P

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Psssst, hey Ron, that is an Austrailian auction site. That might be just the right price there.
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Longcolt44 wrote:Psssst, hey Ron, that is an Austrailian auction site. That might be just the right price there.
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The simple explanation is that the weapon was brought home by a member of the ADF participating in Operation Slipper in Afghanistan. It could have been a rifle captured by the SOviets during WW2 and later sent as aid to the Afgan commies during the Soviets war in that country back in the 1980's. Does Australia require the country of origin to be stamped on imported rifles? Or maybe it was done by the soldier so people would know were he captured the rifle.
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I think JYD is right, or at least on the right track. Anyone familiar with Austrailian import/bringback regulations?
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Here's some info regarding the importation of firearms:
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resou ... rearms.pdf

These rules would also apply in bring-back circumstances.

There is no requirement for country of origin stamping in Australia.
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Very interesting. Some rumors of black market afgan guns way back. Kind of like the cowboys selling to the indians to fight the cowboys, not sure about markings though :vcool: :vcool:
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