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Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:36 pm
by fintowin
It’s been a while since I posted here, but I have this carbine that is some variation on the Spanish Destroyer. It has an internal magazine, and a bayonet lug.
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen one of these before re, or has good info on it. I bought it at a local auction a couple years ago, and just kind of put it away, and forgot about it.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:54 pm
by millman

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:46 pm
by fintowin
That video jut generally covers the destroyers we normally see on the market. My question is concerning the variation I have pictured above. It does not have the removable external magazine. I have never seen this on a Destroyer before. When I first got it, I did quite a lot of searching, and found no other examples of it.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:30 pm
by millman
https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... er-Carbine
Go look at this thread on gunboards. Post 18 has a pic of your rifle. The poster was online when I was there.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:13 pm
by fintowin
The rifle in that post is different. It has no bayonet lug, and has a tube of sorts under the barrel that resembles (but is not) a tube magazine. Mine has an internal magazine and a bayonet lug.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:23 pm
by millman
fintowin wrote:The rifle in that post is different. It has no bayonet lug, and has a tube of sorts under the barrel that resembles (but is not) a tube magazine. Mine has an internal magazine and a bayonet lug.
I would send a pic of yours to that guy over there. He is apparently from Spain, and seemed to know a bit about these.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:25 pm
by fintowin
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Couple more pics

Thanks for the heads up on that post, Millman. I will see if I can get his thoughts.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:18 pm
by fintowin
Found out it’s not a Destroyer, but a Montserrat Carbine. It was commissioned for fabrication by a large gun shop in Barcelona, owned by Genaro Castells.
Castells was one of the bosses of "Somaten" units, that were paramilitary organizations that operated before and during Spanish Civil War. That is the justification for the bayonet lug. It was a carbine intended for these organizations.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:58 pm
by millman
fintowin wrote:Found out it’s not a Destroyer, but a Montserrat Carbine. It was commissioned for fabrication by a large gun shop in Barcelona, owned by Genaro Castells.
Castells was one of the bosses of "Somaten" units, that were paramilitary organizations that operated before and during Spanish Civil War. That is the justification for the bayonet lug. It was a carbine intended for these organizations.
Cool. Good info.

Re: Destroyer?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:06 pm
by fintowin
Yes, good indeed. Info from a Spanish collector at Gunboards.