The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

Went to a store for the first time going to look at 1911s and first I ask if he had and old milsurps. " I had a Garrand M1 Carbine that I sold to a buddy too cheap ", came with all the paperwork from the original owner he showed it to me but never did say the price. Then he says, I have an old Mosin in the back case so I go look not expecting much and it turns out to be a real clean Sestroryetsk 1897 or 1898 memory issues. Didn't have a lot of time since it was close to closing time. Bolt worked smooth, it was very clean about all I can tell you, it was in a dark area and my time was limited. The price is $350 out the door, I just walked in and haven't had a chance to research online but anyone care to weigh in ?

Yes I know, the biggest bunch of enablers on the Net will say BUY IT !! Any input appreciated guys. TIA

Joe

If it's complete, it's an easy $350 rifle. An unscrubbed, complete Sestroyetsk antique M91 with good pics and presentation will often break $600 and more on funbroker ...

I expect to see this rifle in the next couple days....or at least a layaway receipt.

Longcolt44 wrote:I expect to see this rifle in the next couple days....or at least a layaway receipt.

Dang I guess that means I need to dust off the C&R .........

Condition and completeness would dictate whether or not you should buy that rifle so maybe try and grab a few pictures. Missing parts like hand guard, cleaning rod, and barrel clamps are very expensive and if missing would be big negatives to me. If missing that price could be as far as $250 or so off to have a complete rifle. The Sestroryetsk M91 is a hard rifle to find in decent shape and if it is complete would be worth that amount. Good Luck! Bill

Yes, buy it, and there is no such thing as a Garand carbine, that " tanker" Garand bullshit was experimental and not approved. There was an M1 carbine, looks nothing like the Garand, they do not share a design. If a dealer started telling me about Garand " carbines" I would immediately move his name over to the moron category full of people who's information we lack faith in. Even scrubbed Balkan sestys are hard to find, most I have seen are either Balkan used or have the SA Finn stamp on them. Nice find, now go grab it.

All things being equal (the 3 C's), a Sestroryetsk, Finn or not, for $350 out the door sounds like a deal to me. For me, the shank impression is important. Many of these were lightly struck or worn. A really clean one says Finn to me. Good luck and hope it works out for you. It's funny how when you are looking for A (a 1911) you end up with B. Such is life in this insanity.

You have to make sure that you don't get too excited too quick and buy it, then realize that it has been modified or misrepresented only after getting it home. This has happened a few times around here.
350.00 is a great deal in this day and time if the rifle is correct. If you go back you need to be ready to secure it if you want it, not ask to start taking pictures and leaving then planning to come back. If you give the impression that it deserves a lot more investigating then expect the dealer to do the same thing and raise the price. Inspect it yourself, you don't have to be an expert, just calmly look it over WITHOUT TOO MUCH TALKING! Then buy it or walk away and don't look back. Trust your gut. You can tell if it's been screwed up. If it is all there but missing a handguard I'd still be all over it at 350.00 otd. Missing handguards are not the end of the world even if you never find one.

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Junk Yard Dog wrote:Yes, buy it, and there is no such thing as a Garand carbine, that " tanker" Garand bullshit was experimental and not approved. There was an M1 carbine, looks nothing like the Garand, they do not share a design. If a dealer started telling me about Garand " carbines" I would immediately move his name over to the moron category full of people who's information we lack faith in. Even scrubbed Balkan sestys are hard to find, most I have seen are either Balkan used or have the SA Finn stamp on them. Nice find, now go grab it.

That was my mistake on that DA comment JYD, I saw it after the fact and thought " that was stupid" maybe nobody will bust my ass.....wrong In my excitment over the Mosin I went ape shit typing.

bunkysdad wrote:You have to make sure that you don't get too excited too quick and buy it, then realize that it has been modified or misrepresented only after getting it home. This has happened a few times around here.
350.00 is a great deal in this day and time if the rifle is correct. If you go back you need to be ready to secure it if you want it, not ask to start taking pictures and leaving then planning to come back. If you give the impression that it deserves a lot more investigating then expect the dealer to do the same thing and raise the price. Inspect it yourself, you don't have to be an expert, just calmly look it over WITHOUT TOO MUCH TALKING! Then buy it or walk away and don't look back. Trust your gut. You can tell if it's been screwed up. If it is all there but missing a handguard I'd still be all over it at 350.00 otd. Missing handguards are not the end of the world even if you never find one.

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Thanks, I have already got burned once ( it was all on me of course ), I hope once is all I get, guess that's why I'm paranoid about this, 350 bucks for a gun is nothing these days but $350 is still a lot of cash to me. I didn't see anything missing but I didn't have a lot of time with it because it was almost closing time and the lighting wasn't very good. If I go back I'll be taking the cash with me. Hope the price of tuition isn't 350 bucks.

It the rifle is complete and not bubba'd, and you do not buy it for $350.00, you will live to regret it.

SA1911a1 wrote:It the rifle is complete and not bubba'd, and you do not buy it for $350.00, you will live to regret it.

Pretty sure you're right sir.......

If you don't grab it just tell Steve were it is, he's always wanted to Visit the north in winter.

When I first started to become interested in the Mosin-Nagant, I was plundering a pawn shop and came upon a Sestroryetsk, the first M-91 I had seen, it was also Finnish Pulos....(I can't spell it) marked. I didn't recognize the Finnish marking. Asking price was under $200.00 and there was certainly wiggle room there. It was missing the front site so I walked away. A couple of weeks later I decided to go back and get it, and you know it was gone.... I have yet to forgive myself for it. I haven't seen one since.

Junk Yard Dog wrote:If you don't grab it just tell Steve were it is, he's always wanted to Visit the north in winter.

No thanks Jim, I will have to pass. The thought on driving on icy roads scares the living snot outta me. I see the films, on the news, of dozens of cars playing bumper cars on ice. Imagine someone who had never driven on it...I would be buzzard bait.

You know, people pay money to ride the bumper cars. Don't worry about the buzzards, way to cold for them, they wouldn't be able to eat you until your body thawed out in the spring.

Buy it, or fess up where it's at so we can.....

Seriously, buy it.

I got it today.

I have a few more bad pics. Sorry the pics stink. Thanks for all of the replies, much appreciated.