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Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:30 am
by LAR135-NE
I want to share some additional photos and information about the Remington 1917 Mosin Nagent I posted the other day in the new members area. It is a WWII brought back from Japan by my father in 1946, so it no doubt could tell and interesting story if it could talk. I want to find out all I can about this rifle so feel free to post observations and comments. I have not shot it, it doesn’t have a front sight and I would obviously want to be sure that the head space was ok prior to doing that anyway.

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Marks on the stock:

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Markings on the barrel:

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Other side of the rifle:

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The serial numbers on the bolt, butt plate and bottom of the magazine all have the same number 45343 however the safety knob (not sure of actual nomenclature) has 46343 but it almost looks like it was restruck, (I'll post a photo later the computer's giving issues.) Obviously these do not match the SN of the rifle, or at least of the barrel.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:51 pm
by Miller Tyme
Cool M91, looking forward to seeing the pics.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:12 pm
by Lotema
Very nice looking Remington! There were a couple of railroad cars filled with US made Mosins that were captured by the Japanese at the end of the first World War. Many of them became training rifles at the schools back in Japan. A lot of those were stamped in Kanji with the name of the school, or painted on the butt of the stock. Looks like there may have been more paint on the stock than what's currently there. Did your dad have any paperwork that went with the rifle? For the front sight, take a look at Liberty Tree Collectors (forum sponsor). They usually have some front sight blades. Okie (another great sponsor) makes a great set of gauges for checking headspace, well worth the money.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:53 pm
by lthilsdorf
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say I'm not the only person who wants more pictures!

I love these Japanese WWII bringback M91's. They aren't common at all, but I've seen enough that I hope someday I'll come across one too. Beautiful rifle!!!

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:03 pm
by Fledge
Yeah, more pictures. I agree. It looks like there was more potential characters painted on the buttstock at one time.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:13 pm
by Cj556
Thats a rare one for sure

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:52 pm
by LAR135-NE
Number on safety ( does it look to you like that once was a 5 or is a 5 that when stamped looks like it closed up?)

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On bolt
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Buttplate

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Bottom of magazine

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Markings in stock by trigger guard

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Rear sight

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Comments/theories/ etc welcome

Oh and I don't have more photos of the rifle stock, but that's the only number visible.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:04 pm
by millman
That's a good one!

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:20 pm
by Miller Tyme
That bolt looks like the 5 was overstruck with a 6 for some reason, but IMHO that it is original to the rifle

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:12 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
:vcool: :vcool: :vcool: :thumbsup:

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:14 pm
by B24
:Drool1: :Drool1: :Drool1: A matching 1917 Remington bring back!

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:18 pm
by JER
Nice condition, all around. However, it's a barreled action from one rifle, and the rest of the parts from a different rifle, so whether or not the safety matches, seems a moot point.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:57 am
by LAR135-NE
JER wrote:Nice condition, all around. However, it's a barreled action from one rifle, and the rest of the parts from a different rifle, so whether or not the safety matches, seems a moot point.
That's what my conclusion was as well. I've never had the action out of the stock, I need to do that one of these days to see if there's anything there to tell me more about the rifle.

The stock is in great shape, very few dings anywhere to indicate it was used very much. The painted number is not only painted but that area appears to have been either carved in or pushed in, definitely lower and then filled with paint. There are no other such areas to be seen on the rifle stock to indicate there were additional numbers. There are some marks under the rear sight, I'm going to try to get a good photo of those today.

Thanks for the comments.

Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:37 am
by LAR135-NE
Marks on rear sight.

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mark on stock

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Re: Remington 1917 Mosin Nagant

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:20 pm
by bunkysdad
I like it. The stock is a nice piece of walnut as it should be. No handguard. That is not uncommon. They were delicate on these and sure difficult to find these days, but a missing handguard has never bothered me on these. Very nice rifle.