1942 Izhevsh Baltic/Romanian
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:14 am
Mosin Nagant
Russian M91/30
1942 Izhevsk
Barrel s/n ЛЭ6931
Century Import
Here is an interesting rifle that I need some input on. I was originally drawn to this rifle because of the Romanian forestock repair. I've always wanted one of these. Although I am familiar with most of the stuff that came out of Curik, I know little or nothing about these. Here are some details:
1. Totally non matching with scrubbed bolt.
2. No cleaning rod or lug for that matter.
3. Stock is very unusual. My first thoughts were that it was Romanian but I'm not so sure. Obviously, there is a large, what I am assuming, Romanian repair to half of the forestock. This was not the same dimensions as the Russian version so the rear barrel band is very snug and extended quite a bit. There are no barrel band springs or spring inserts on the forestock and no indication that there ever were any. Also the front and back sling slots look as if they were milled somewhere else but in Russian. The slot itself is larger than the escutcheon. The front of the forestock appears to have been cut back a little for reasons that escape me. And I see no evidence that the forestock was a replacement. Very odd.
4. The rifle, itself, is the best example I own of a war years Russian 9130 that was so quickly moved through the manufacturing process. The milling on all parts of the rifle still contain the milling markings, including the rear sight base. On others that I own the receiver looks like the surface of the moon, but this one is different, i.e. a bit more refined. Very cool IMHO.
5. An interesting point about the fit and finish was that after I cleaned the rifle up, I found that it would not chamber the 2nd and subsequent rounds in the magazine. In addition it was very difficult to actually load a round into the magazine. I tried everything to resolve this - different interrupter spring, different interrupter/ejector, and even another magazine follower. Nothing helped. The interrupter simply would not allow the rounds to move up. I finally determined that the milled space designed for the interrupter in the stock was keeping the interrupter from pushing all the way in when I cycled the bolt back. I chiseled out additional space in the stock since I noticed that there was a shiny spot adjacent to the interrupter slot. It now loads and chambers as it should. And, then, the firing pin would only adjust flush with the face of the bolt head. I replaced the firing pin from a parts rifle and it adjusted within spec so, it appears, that the firing pin was a bit short. The bore is not bad. I would rate it as G-VG. Pitted but high sharp lands. It passed a NOGO headspace at about 3 pm. So, this rifle should shoot just fine. Bonus. This appears to, also, be a /25\ refurbished rifle at some point. But, I haven't seen a /25\ rifle like this one, ever...
6. When I first looked down the bore I was horrified. But, amazingly enough, it cleaned up to an acceptable level. Actually, not bad.
So guys, some thoughts please. I am not sure what I have here. Have you seen anything like this before? I know there are Russian 9130's out there with similar Romanian repairs but this on strikes me as odd especially the stock.
Russian M91/30
1942 Izhevsk
Barrel s/n ЛЭ6931
Century Import
Here is an interesting rifle that I need some input on. I was originally drawn to this rifle because of the Romanian forestock repair. I've always wanted one of these. Although I am familiar with most of the stuff that came out of Curik, I know little or nothing about these. Here are some details:
1. Totally non matching with scrubbed bolt.
2. No cleaning rod or lug for that matter.
3. Stock is very unusual. My first thoughts were that it was Romanian but I'm not so sure. Obviously, there is a large, what I am assuming, Romanian repair to half of the forestock. This was not the same dimensions as the Russian version so the rear barrel band is very snug and extended quite a bit. There are no barrel band springs or spring inserts on the forestock and no indication that there ever were any. Also the front and back sling slots look as if they were milled somewhere else but in Russian. The slot itself is larger than the escutcheon. The front of the forestock appears to have been cut back a little for reasons that escape me. And I see no evidence that the forestock was a replacement. Very odd.
4. The rifle, itself, is the best example I own of a war years Russian 9130 that was so quickly moved through the manufacturing process. The milling on all parts of the rifle still contain the milling markings, including the rear sight base. On others that I own the receiver looks like the surface of the moon, but this one is different, i.e. a bit more refined. Very cool IMHO.
5. An interesting point about the fit and finish was that after I cleaned the rifle up, I found that it would not chamber the 2nd and subsequent rounds in the magazine. In addition it was very difficult to actually load a round into the magazine. I tried everything to resolve this - different interrupter spring, different interrupter/ejector, and even another magazine follower. Nothing helped. The interrupter simply would not allow the rounds to move up. I finally determined that the milled space designed for the interrupter in the stock was keeping the interrupter from pushing all the way in when I cycled the bolt back. I chiseled out additional space in the stock since I noticed that there was a shiny spot adjacent to the interrupter slot. It now loads and chambers as it should. And, then, the firing pin would only adjust flush with the face of the bolt head. I replaced the firing pin from a parts rifle and it adjusted within spec so, it appears, that the firing pin was a bit short. The bore is not bad. I would rate it as G-VG. Pitted but high sharp lands. It passed a NOGO headspace at about 3 pm. So, this rifle should shoot just fine. Bonus. This appears to, also, be a /25\ refurbished rifle at some point. But, I haven't seen a /25\ rifle like this one, ever...
6. When I first looked down the bore I was horrified. But, amazingly enough, it cleaned up to an acceptable level. Actually, not bad.
So guys, some thoughts please. I am not sure what I have here. Have you seen anything like this before? I know there are Russian 9130's out there with similar Romanian repairs but this on strikes me as odd especially the stock.
Pretty cool gun IMHO.