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Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:56 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
OK, gotta put a pic or two here in our new section. Don't have many on this gun to show.
It is not an original 1949first issue at all! But,I know for certain a few of you guys do have the true originals and I would love to see a pic or two. :biggrin:

In APRIL last year I was on GB and this one just popped up after a refresh. Opening bid was $275 and BIN of $375.I looked at it and thought
there is something wrong here. Not at that price. But, that original bluing and all matching numbers on the metal was unusual to say the least for a 49.
Finally,with my wife looking at it she said buy the damn thing. I hit Bin. $375 plus $25 shipping and my FFL guy charged me no transfer fee.
No scrubs on this rifle.I thought I saw 2 on GB, but was not. Just his camera. I would have better pics, but at the time I had no idea this camera had macro close up capability. Now I do. Need to do a good shoot on this one soon. Here you go, refurb or not. :)

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Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:00 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Not original? it looks like a perfectly nice Ukrainian refurbished 1949 Soviet SKS to me, I don't see Bubba's hand here, but I will take your word for it. :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:04 pm
by pacanis
I gotta get me one of those.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:08 pm
by Izhevsk762
:toast:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:11 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Not original? it looks like a perfectly nice Ukrainian refurbished 1949 Soviet SKS to me, I don't see Bubba's hand here, but I will take your word for it. :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:
We have some new members here who do have the original 90 degree gas block and the Black spike bayo. :mrgreen:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Not original? it looks like a perfectly nice Ukrainian refurbished 1949 Soviet SKS to me, I don't see Bubba's hand here, but I will take your word for it. :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:
Oh, no Bubba here. It has been Russian Refurbished before it came to the US. In 1949, there was an earlier version of it.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Spike bayonet? I thought that was used on the ChiCom SKS's? No idea about the gas block, I only have one Soviet SKS, a 1950 Tula and it's been stored away for years in cosmoline sleep.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:24 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Spike bayonet? I thought that was used on the ChiCom SKS's? No idea about the gas block, I only have one Soviet SKS, a 1950 Tula and it's been stored away for years in cosmoline sleep.
I still need a good original 50. Send it to me,I will store it for you. Forever even. :D

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:50 pm
by sheepdog
Your deck needs to be scraped and restained. Bird poop too. :oops: Martin would never show one of his prized SKSs on a deck that looks like that. That's disrespecting one of Mr. Simonov's classics. :no:

Next time I'm anywhere near Iowa Outlaw I'll load up my scraper and my airless sprayer and fix that for you for a nominal fee. :biggrin:

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Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:14 pm
by martin08
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Spike bayonet? I thought that was used on the ChiCom SKS's? No idea about the gas block, I only have one Soviet SKS, a 1950 Tula and it's been stored away for years in cosmoline sleep.

Here is one of my first posts on the forum, JYD. It shows the 90deg gas block, and other early bolt/carrier and takedown lever features. Mine is the second design with the blade bayonet, vs. the original cruciform spike.

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... 0deg#p1733

I'll bet that if you took your 1950 SKS out of its hibernation, you would discover that your bolt and carrier also have early design features. :wink:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:17 pm
by martin08
Oh, and to finish Old Outlaw's story. When he saw the Gunbroker auction, he PM'd me to ask if it was a good deal. I told him that if he didn't buy it, it wouldn't last another five minutes.

It was gone in less than one. :lol:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:23 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
It's on schedule to come out of storage but cosmoline cleaning is outdoor work, and it's very cold out just now :) I bought that SKS back in '94, it was under $200 at the time I think, I picked it because it was the oldest on display. wasn't there some issue about chrome bores with the early models, early didn't have it but later did? Just triggered a memory of a friend of mine pointing out the lack of chrome in mine and how a chrome bore would be better, I pointed out that the Mauser he was buying also lacked a chrome bore and wouldn't a Remchester be better ? :)

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:31 pm
by martin08
Yes, chromed bores came out in early 1952.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:34 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
martin08 wrote:Oh, and to finish Old Outlaw's story. When he saw the Gunbroker auction, he PM'd me to ask if it was a good deal. I told him that if he didn't buy it, it wouldn't last another five minutes.

It was gone in less than one. :lol:
I did! And guys, Martin is telling the truth. There is a bunch of us on here that help each other every time we can, right down to that last minute.
A good group on here.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:38 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
martin08 wrote:Yes, chromed bores came out in early 1952.
Thanks Martin, sometimes things float to the surface of the memory from that long ago era before we had internet around here, 60% of the time they are correct :lol:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:17 pm
by MN Fan
Sweet AKS Outlaw! I am really starting to get anxious.

I feel pretty good...I am actually somewhat able to understand the discussion :) 90 degree gas blocks, cruciform spike...I know what that means lol.

Very nice...thank you for sharing this beaut!

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:35 pm
by Woodbeef
Nice 49 there Sir. I'm waiting for Vlad to handpick me a 49 non-refurb.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:39 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Woodbeef wrote:Nice 49 there Sir. I'm waiting for Vlad to handpick me a 49 non-refurb.
You just keep it up,and I will lead the invasion of Alberta right to your safe! :biggrin:

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:45 pm
by Woodbeef
He has a new shipment inbound. Maybe he'll have a red 53 Izhevsk non-refurb for me. Or maybe a "D" laminate with a 55 Tula top cover.

Re: Very Late 1949 TulaRefurb.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:19 pm
by bunkysdad
This is a beatiful rifle. I can't believe I haven't already said so, as this post is a few weeks old. Very nice.