Wartime Tulas

Chrome Moly Vampire · Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:15 pm

Are these particularly rare or just uncommon? It seems that wartime Izhevsks are everywhere, but I've only seen one 1944 Tula. I know I can spend a while looking up the stats, but I want collector stats and opinions. Do you see a lot of these in your areas?

professor9 · Post by **professor9** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:05 am

I can't speak to overall, but I have a 44 Tula, and it's pure warrime. The condition just yells at you when you hold it. I agree though you seem to see leas Tulas out there.

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:30 am

I collect 1944 Mosin Nagants and out of approx 25+rifles i have 10 of them are Tula's. Tula produced less than a third of all war time MN if memory serves me so they will be far less common.

davesstuff1 · Post by **davesstuff1** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:07 am

It seems that there was more pride in work-man-ship in the Tula Plants duruing WWll....

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:07 am

I have at least two 44 Tulas in my collection, probably others as well.

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:08 am

davesstuff1 wrote:It seems that there was more pride in work-man-ship in the Tula Plants duruing WWll....

Marginally better finish, but they were still far from their pre war best, and the Tula markings during the war are known for light strikes.

mogunner · Post by **mogunner** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:38 am

I have a 42 Tula, refurb, purchased from Classic about 3 years ago. Machining on the barrel is better than the Izhevsk ones that I own but still a far cry from the prewars that I've acquired. I did pay for the arsenal handpick when ordering though.

Post by **bunkysdad** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:32 am

When the wolf is in your face, I doubt that pride in workmanship would be the top priority. Doesn't make wartime rifles any less desirable to me.

Joeinthehills · Post by **Joeinthehills** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:02 pm

Of the 22 91/30's probably 45% Tula vs Izhevsk Hex receiver dates varying between the mid 20's to the mid 30's I don't see allot of difference in machining quality between the 2 arsenals.

But, my eyesight and perception is not up to what this board has to offer.

When some pixs are posted and comments are made I go back and look at the pixs and still can't see the details being described. :grumpy:

I may be suffering from CSS (Can't See Shit) disease.

finloq · Post by **finloq** » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:05 pm

My only war time Tula is from the wrong war. It's a '39.

professor9 · Post by **professor9** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:20 pm

Miller Tyme, what is the draw to concentrate on collecting a certain year MN?
Are there comparisons you make? I'd be interested in reading your thoughts.

Prof

graphic914 · Post by **graphic914** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:59 pm

I know the hex receivers are worth more, what other years are worth more?

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:06 pm

professor9 wrote:Miller Tyme, what is the draw to concentrate on collecting a certain year MN?
Are there comparisons you make? I'd be interested in reading your thoughts.

Prof

About 4 years ago I realized my collection needed focus, I had about 50 rifles with 1/2 being Mosin Nagants, but there was no rhyme or reason to why I bought what I bought. I decided MN's where going to be my main focus and I picked 1944 as the year to mainly collect for a couple of reasons. First was both Izhevsk and Tula where producing PU snipers, 91/30's, M38's, & M44's. 1944 was the only year Tula made the M44, and was one of only 2 years they produced the M38 ( the other being 1940). And there was a fair amount of recycled recievers used by both arsenals in 1944 to add to the mix. From memory I have the following 1944 MN's, and while I now have over 120 MN's and have added other groups of MN's to collect ( M44's, M38's, SCW's,snipers) the 1944's are my favorites, and the focus helps make collecting more enjoyable.

Izhevsk
m38
m38 m/o
m38 DDR
m44
m44 m/o
m44 DDR
91/30
ex-sniper
PU sniper
Yugo rework PU sniper
91/59

Tula
m38
m38 Hex reciever
m44
m44 Hex reciever
91/30
91/30 Hex reciever
91/30 m/o
91/30 hex reciever quad date m/o
ex-sniper
PU sniper
91/59

Finn's
44 Tikka 91/30 round reciever

Post by **bunkysdad** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:24 am

Do you have a picture of all of them together, because it must be a sight to behold.8-)8-)

Dan4good · Post by **Dan4good** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:31 pm

damn 120 mosins in one collection sweet id like to see that

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:05 pm

bunkysdad wrote:Do you have a picture of all of them together, because it must be a sight to behold.8-)8-)

I did back when I had about a dozen, I guess that will have to be a winter project to get a group pic of them all.

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:10 pm

Dan4good wrote:damn 120 mosins in one collection sweet id like to see that

These are just the ones in the upstairs office gunsafes, I took them all out to wipe them down last winter.................

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:50 am

I gave up on group pics years ago, takes all day, puts my back out.

Miller Tyme · Post by **Miller Tyme** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:45 pm

Junk Yard Dog wrote:I gave up on group pics years ago, takes all day, puts my back out.

+1 on that JYD

desdem12 · Post by **desdem12** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:17 pm

I have a 42 and 43 Tula and they are very nice rifles. The 42 tula is my reload test rifle. Shoots anything and everything very well.

The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

Wartime Tulas

Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas

Re: Wartime Tulas