The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

Hi all.
After reading the articles on the Mosin Nagant Sniper rifles, I've been looking at auctions to see what's for sale.
I'm attaching pictures of two "sniper rifles" that I found. The first one looks like a PU type. The second....???
If I read correctly, it is next to impossible to tell whether a Mosin is an original sniper from pictures like these.
Thanks for any comments or suggestions

I can't tell anything from the photos but I can tell you that there are many fake Mosin snipers out there, don't get taken.

No where near enough photos to tell one way or another.


I will say this......The second one down has too much barrel showing in front of the hand guard and fore stock and is not a PU sniper rifle.

Dolk

I'm no expert, but the second one looks to be a bubba'd up Polish Wz-48, if that's correct and both are from the same seller I would be very cautious.

Ya the second one doesn't even have a PU scope on it and the receiver is not a mosin receiver or bolt. Probly like bb says a 22lr made into a fake.

The second one definitely looks like a Polish trainer. I don't remember any of those being equipped with PU scopes. The TOZ .22lr rifles on the other hand...

There is nothing about the first one that automatically jumps out and shouts "fake", but no real determination can be made from the photos.

My first thought about the second one was that it looks like some of the various hunting and target Mosins that were available in the Soviet Union in the post-WW2 era, until closer examination of the receiver and magazine revealed that this wasn't just a modified Mosin.

The second one is a .22.

Hard to tell from the photos, but the scope actually looks like one of the Russian LOMO "PO" scopes - also called the "Russian Hunter" that were sold in the 1990's. I've owned several of these, and still have one that is the original scope for my 1993 7.62X39 Saiga rifle. The mount looks like one of the post-war Soviet era commercial/military replacement setups that were imported around the same time, many of which were sold with the PO scopes by Century Arms. Back then, the scope mount and base - complete with all mounting hardware - and the scope all sold for the princely sum of $40. $125 to $150.

Thank you guys, I had my doubts about the second one. Like several of the comments, I thought that too much of the barrel is showing. I've asked the seller for some more photos of the first one. Let's see what shows up.

Marcus wrote:Hard to tell from the photos, but the scope actually looks like one of the Russian LOMO "PO" scopes - also called the "Russian Hunter" that were sold in the 1990's. I've owned several of these, and still have one that is the original scope for my 1993 7.62X39 Saiga rifle. The mount looks like one of the post-war Soviet era commercial/military replacement setups that were imported around the same time, many of which were sold with the PO scopes by Century Arms. Back then, the scope mount and base - complete with all mounting hardware - and the scope all sold for the princely sum of $40. $125 to $150.

I'd give $125 for that all day long. I think it is cute.

I don't know what happened to what I wrote above, part of it got lost and now it's too late to edit it. What I originally said was that today, the post-war Soviet commercial/military replacement scope mount and base setup is worth $125 to $150 by itself. It would be interesting to see what base is on it.

The PO scopes have also gone up quite a bit in value. Today the scope and mount setup would probably be worth in the $200 range.

First one even if it is a fake is about $400 to $450 in parts on today's market so if a fake is OK with you bid accordingly. The second one is kind of cute and I would accept any of the explanations, max value to me is about $140 or so. I would never consider buying any sniper version online. With all the money you can put out for one I would have to have a hands on inspection, but then I even have my doubts about the "Real" Molot made ones. That is just personal taking into fact I have two which I am sure of the validity. Bill