The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

When I visualize the red army swarming into battle in WW2 I picture the soldiers carrying 91/30s, carbines, SMGs and the like. But in truth, the original Mosin design, the M91 infantry rifle, saw service in the hands of the WW2 red army soldier as well. When I think of WW2 M91s, Finn Tikka and VKT M91s are the first things that pop into my head. This Tula M91 not only saw service in WW2, but was captured by the Finns and then most likely used against it's former owners.

Post WW1 M91s seem to be as scarce as hen's teeth, and when I see them they are usually SCW rifles sent to Spain as aid to Spanish Republican forces in the Spanish Civil War. I have seen very few that have been 'Finned'. As a late date M91, it is almost guaranteed that this rifle is a true Finn capture M91 as opposed to one inherited from the Russians or bought post-WW1. Thanks to the help of a fellow forum member, I was able to snag this fantastic example.

The rifle is in fantastic shape. Except for a few handling marks on the wrist and a small chip in the toe, it looks like it was refurbed yesterday. The markings are crisp and clear, and the bore is really nice with a small counterbore. It is a mix of older and newer parts, including Izhevsk, New England Westinghouse, and Sestroryetsk. The one big surprise on tearing the rifle down was finding the barrel channel had been releaved for clearance it's entire length, effectively free floating the barrel. The clearance work in the stock was then sealed with what appears to be a thin coat of pine tar. With the shimmed action and free floating barrel, I can't wait to see how she shoots. The Finn sling is an added bonus. Enjoy!
































I had always thought this W was an Austrian capture mark. With the date on this rifle, this is impossible.

Very nice, it looks barely used. I hope I look that good at 89 years old.

love the sling

WOW what a m91 if I ever saw one.

Miller Tyme wrote:Very cool M91 you got there RG, not many of them floating around.

Thanks! I've been very lucky lately. The latest m91 pick-up is an elderly old girl who speaks with a French accent...

Though more common at the Izhevsk Arsenal in the 1920's, one often finds much older or undated receivers from that era.

A '24 Tula receiver tang stamp is quite a sight. The whole gun is quite a sight. Congrats!

Very nice! You don't see many 20's era M91's. I love the sling as well.

BubbaDX wrote:Very nice, it looks barely used. I hope I look that good at 89 years old.

You too must get yourself an extensive refurbishment like the rifle, then you might have a chance. I wonder what would equal restocking and rebluing in human refurbishment process?!

Bugelson wrote:

BubbaDX wrote:Very nice, it looks barely used. I hope I look that good at 89 years old.

You too must get yourself an extensive refurbishment like the rifle, then you might have a chance. I wonder what would equal restocking and rebluing in human refurbishment process?!

I would wind up with a pot-belly stock I'm sure.

When you started describing this one, I thought, "I hope he took a picture of the stock with the barrel out" and dang if you didn't! Nice One! . Thanks for letting us look.

Note the shim in there

You did well.

Nice Rifle! Usually when the barrel channel is clearenced like that you will find a 91/24 heavy barreled rifle in place. Many people do not realize that the heavy barreled rifles really required a special fit in the barrel channel of the stock usually. If you find a questionable vintage 91/24 look very closely at the fit of the hand guard and the stock on the rifle. Look for a space between the stock and the hand guard, see how far down into the stock the barrel is fit, and check and see if the rifle action is setting way up in the stock to get the action tilt back in the stock and float the barrel. If you see one or more or all of these things it is a good bet the 91/24 has been put in a replacement stock at some time. Then you have to decide when that was done and start asking specific questions of the seller. It is just my way but if I get a bunch of I don't know answers I pass on buying it.

I have found a couple of barrel channels like that over the years and to make it even more interesting I have found them with a pad of wood left on the muzzle end of the channel to sort of support or cradle the barrel. That really had me wondering because while one of the wood workings tried to float the rifle barrel the other supported it? Who knows what they were trying to do those many long years ago! Old rifles tell many stories but sometimes they raise many questions too. Bill

I took this rifle out for a trip to the range today and wasn't disappointed. With Winchester commercial 180 gr. soft point she threw a perfectly centered first 5 shot group just under 2 inches at 75 yards, 6 inches high. I'm positive that this is the first time time that the rifle had been fired since the Finn refurb, the counter bore and first bit of the rifling were blued with no wear to the bluing. I shot those five rounds, smiled, and moved on to the next rifle.

I've submitted this rifle to the mosin showcase, if the members think it's a worthy addition I'd love to see it there.