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Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:57 pm
by millman
Most everyone here will be sick of me posting this, but it was my first MN, and is still the strangest one I have. It is a Finnish M91, relined ala the P-series rifles, but it has no P marking. It only has 2 SA stamps, a "D" mark, and the Ser.# 39. I have never found any info on it other than that. I got it with no handguard, but Hlavinka found me the perfect match. Thanks MH. Anyway, here are some pics.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:59 pm
by millman
I see you can only post 3 pics at a time. Next 3.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:18 pm
by millman
next.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:38 am
by Longcolt44
That is one nice rifle. I have had my greasy little finger prints all over it.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:35 am
by Rongo
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:58 pm
by Jumperwire
That's the famous P-25 that ain't a P-Series cause it doesn't have a P-Mark, but it has all the characteristics of a P-Series rifle, right down to the White Barrel, but still lacking a P-Mark and overlooking the fact that territorial aggression was going on at the time that rifle, that ain't what it appears to be was marked with only a two digit serial number because it was probably too early to decide that it was in fact what it's not today because what it wasn't marked as about 100 years ago makes it what it is today.
One Nice Rifle :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:02 pm
by millman
Jumperwire wrote:That's the famous P-25 that ain't a P-Series cause it doesn't have a P-Mark, but it has all the characteristics of a P-Series rifle, right down to the White Barrel, but still lacking a P-Mark and overlooking the fact that territorial aggression was going on at the time that rifle, that ain't what it appears to be was marked with only a two digit serial number because it was probably too early to decide that it was in fact what it's not today because what it wasn't marked as about 100 years ago makes it what it is today.
One Nice Rifle :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:
Thanks. That is just about my take on it. But to be perfectly clear. It is not a P-series.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:08 pm
by millman
bump for the new guys who may have missed this one.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:15 pm
by Izhevsk762
millman wrote:
Jumperwire wrote:That's the famous P-25 that ain't a P-Series cause it doesn't have a P-Mark, but it has all the characteristics of a P-Series rifle, right down to the White Barrel, but still lacking a P-Mark and overlooking the fact that territorial aggression was going on at the time that rifle, that ain't what it appears to be was marked with only a two digit serial number because it was probably too early to decide that it was in fact what it's not today because what it wasn't marked as about 100 years ago makes it what it is today.
One Nice Rifle :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek:
Thanks. That is just about my take on it. But to be perfectly clear. It is not a P-series.
Mybe it's just a prototype for the P-series :biggrin:

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:29 pm
by martin08
39-D

I once knew a lady.....


.... but she didn't have a gun like that! Oh, my.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:30 pm
by millman
Martin, I like the way you think.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:36 pm
by bunkysdad
Wow. I never will get tired of such a fantastic piece of history. Incredible!

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:23 am
by Hlavinka
I think it's a P-series! Early and unmarked, but a P-series nontheless.

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:40 am
by Jumperwire
Hlavinka wrote:I think it's a P-series! Early and unmarked, but a P-series nontheless.
Me too. Hey Millman, if you ever get a chance, post some pics of the barrel bands. I would like to compare them with mine. I think we decided,(on the old forum) that mine was missing a hand guard. just want to visualize it.
Great looking rifle :clap: :clap:

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:51 am
by millman
I'll post some pics when I get home.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:50 pm
by SA1911a1
Mill, I will loan you my "P" series stamp so you can fix your rifle, but I have to get it back. :twisted:

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:38 pm
by millman
Jumperwire wrote:
Hlavinka wrote:I think it's a P-series! Early and unmarked, but a P-series nontheless.
Me too. Hey Millman, if you ever get a chance, post some pics of the barrel bands. I would like to compare them with mine. I think we decided,(on the old forum) that mine was missing a hand guard. just want to visualize it.
Great looking rifle :clap: :clap:
I still don't have pics, but I didn't forget you. The band are the later type of the band with screws.They have a notch inside for the handgaurd tab.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:45 pm
by millman
These pics show the notch in the front and rear bands.

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:47 pm
by Noble Sniper
WOW what a great find. Someone done forgot the P ;)

Re: Oldie, but a Goodie.

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:53 pm
by Jumperwire
Thanks Millman. That's what mine look like. I guess I need to hunting a hand guard. :D