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Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:11 am
by Junk Yard Dog
mike_mays wrote:Junk Yard Dog wrote:OK, the M1 Garand is designed to shoot one kind of .30-06, that would be .30 M2 Ball ( 147 grain jacketed lead core bullet) The M1 was not designed with a gas system that could be regulated, so some other commercial .30-06 that might be at higher pressure could damage your rifle. There is an aftermarket replacement gas cylinder screw that is adjustable if you want to play with hand loads, or commercial loads. All the CMP's ammo is M2, most all military surplus .30-06 is also M2.
I ordered Sellier & Bellot 30.06 180GR. Will this be ok?
No, this is not US M2 Ball spec ammo, neither is anything else except that marked as M2 ball. In the bolt action 1903 you can use any .30-06, but Uncle Sam designed the Garand to use only ammunition supplied by the US government, so they never felt gas adjustments were needed. What happens is the rifle starts to batter itself to death if the pressures are too high.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:31 am
by WeldonHunter
Ironnewt wrote:I'm not sure if Chris has a chamber insert or a new barrel on/in his. Next time he's stateside I'll ask.
Probably not the insert. If I remember correctly they were only used in the earlier versions. Mine is one of the Arlington Ordnance rebarrels from the 90s. I believe it's one that came in from Korea.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:32 am
by WeldonHunter
mike_mays wrote:Junk Yard Dog wrote:OK, the M1 Garand is designed to shoot one kind of .30-06, that would be .30 M2 Ball ( 147 grain jacketed lead core bullet) The M1 was not designed with a gas system that could be regulated, so some other commercial .30-06 that might be at higher pressure could damage your rifle. There is an aftermarket replacement gas cylinder screw that is adjustable if you want to play with hand loads, or commercial loads. All the CMP's ammo is M2, most all military surplus .30-06 is also M2.
I ordered Sellier & Bellot 30.06 180GR. Will this be ok?
Thought you were getting this Mike
http://estore.thecmp.org/store/catalog/ ... ote5=&max= That was made specifically for Garands.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:24 pm
by BubbaDX
There was some surplus M2 ball for sale here on the forum. I bought some of it, but he had more.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:55 pm
by Vati66
Junk Yard Dog wrote:OK, the M1 Garand is designed to shoot one kind of .30-06, that would be .30 M2 Ball ( 147 grain jacketed lead core bullet) The M1 was not designed with a gas system that could be regulated, so some other commercial .30-06 that might be at higher pressure could damage your rifle. There is an aftermarket replacement gas cylinder screw that is adjustable if you want to play with hand loads, or commercial loads. All the CMP's ammo is M2, most all military surplus .30-06 is also M2.
I use one on my Garand, well worth the $40.00 investment. Very easy to setup and can be adjusted for about any round.
http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/ga ... 20456.aspx
Scott
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:36 pm
by mike_mays
WeldonHunter wrote:mike_mays wrote:Junk Yard Dog wrote:OK, the M1 Garand is designed to shoot one kind of .30-06, that would be .30 M2 Ball ( 147 grain jacketed lead core bullet) The M1 was not designed with a gas system that could be regulated, so some other commercial .30-06 that might be at higher pressure could damage your rifle. There is an aftermarket replacement gas cylinder screw that is adjustable if you want to play with hand loads, or commercial loads. All the CMP's ammo is M2, most all military surplus .30-06 is also M2.
I ordered Sellier & Bellot 30.06 180GR. Will this be ok?
Thought you were getting this Mike
http://estore.thecmp.org/store/catalog/ ... ote5=&max= That was made specifically for Garands.
Ordered it a bit ago. Just went to a local gun show and nabbed these
I feel like I will be ok with these until my ammo comes in from the CMP. 1 x of American Eagle and 3 boxes of the surplus.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:41 pm
by WeldonHunter
That surplus looks like Korean stuff and is probably corrosively primed I believe. Make sure you clean that rifle very thoroughly after shooting it. That means a detail strip including the gas system.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:51 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
I have several thousand rounds of that Korean stuff, is it headstamped PS with a 1970's date? This stuff is great, I shot a shitload of it and it wasn't corrosive, the KA headstamp stuff is corrosive. I was buying this 400 rounds in a .50 ammo can.
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:52 pm
by mike_mays
Thats the plan. Thanks for all the help guys!
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:54 pm
by mike_mays
Junk Yard Dog wrote:I have several thousand rounds of that Korean stuff, is it headstamped PS with a 1970's date? This stuff is great, I shot a shitload of it and it wasn't corrosive, the KA headstamp stuff is corrosive. I was buying this 400 rounds in a .50 ammo can.
PS 75 on all 60 rounds
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
The good stuff, exactly what i have, in fact I have three odd boxes right over here in the close......hey! Were did they go!
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:31 pm
by WeldonHunter
Junk Yard Dog wrote:The good stuff, exactly what i have, in fact I have three odd boxes right over here in the close......hey! Were did they go!
LMAO!!!!
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:51 am
by kamakazi339
not to go off topic here but I see a lot of mention of .30 carbine ammo... could anyone pm me a decent place to buy some?
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:11 am
by Darryl
kamakazi339 wrote:not to go off topic here but I see a lot of mention of .30 carbine ammo... could anyone pm me a decent place to buy some?
In the reloading and Ammo forum at the top is a post to ammo price links. Here you go.
http://gun-deals.com/ammo
D
Re: Dumb question about M1 ammo
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:08 pm
by kamakazi339
I forgot all about that thread. Thanks =)
