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desdem12 wrote:Nice one. The carbine is a 1944 or an early 1945 as it only has one ear on the bayonet lug. This helps date it to that time period so it could very well be a 1944.
OH and I forgot it could be a 43 also.
Thanks desdem
Really can't wait to find out now. Damn my natural impatience lol
TheSovietSamurai wrote:
You're Zhuk from Shooting.au right? What a coincidence! It reminds me a lot of my non-refurbished 91/30, which also happened to come from Queensland. I wonder if they're from the same source?
Heh I am indeed! Well spotted Samurai
Could well be the same source, TAP in Brisbane? I bought a stunning Polish Wz-48 trainer from the same guy last year. Beautiful gun!
Yes sirree, spot on! They' come up with some great stuff.
By the looks of it, the sling escutcheons seem to be the post-war kind, but it's certainly not refurbished.
It must have some kind of interesting story behind it.
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That PTA sounds like a PITA. Is there any chance that you all will ever be able to turn back the clock on all of those regulations? Being a privilege, I suppose not. Did you have to give anything up, when they first passed all those laws?
All I can say is more power to you. Glad to here there are still collectors down there. Please stop by the RMNF with any questions you may have.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
I think its great that in places like that, the people still find joy in collecting and shooting. Can't keep good men down where ever it may be! Can't wait to see more of that beautiful rifle
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I can't see the regulations changing anytime soon around here, at least not in our favor. My little "Collection" was almost shut down recently when the licensing and regulations division evaluated my latest permit and stated that they needed a written explanation as to why I required a fourth rifle of the same caliber (7.62x54R of course), and if it wasn't sufficient, my permit would be cancelled. The rifle was still sitting in the shop after postage and paid for, thankfully they let this one go through but I'm not sure that they'll allow me to acquire any more :(
TheSovietSamurai wrote:I can't see the regulations changing anytime soon around here, at least not in our favor. My little "Collection" was almost shut down recently when the licensing and regulations division evaluated my latest permit and stated that they needed a written explanation as to why I required a fourth rifle of the same caliber (7.62x54R of course), and if it wasn't sufficient, my permit would be cancelled. The rifle was still sitting in the shop after postage and paid for, thankfully they let this one go through but I'm not sure that they'll allow me to acquire any more :(
Why is that? Do they think you are arming a 4 man subversive militia?
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
TheSovietSamurai wrote:I can't see the regulations changing anytime soon around here, at least not in our favor. My little "Collection" was almost shut down recently when the licensing and regulations division evaluated my latest permit and stated that they needed a written explanation as to why I required a fourth rifle of the same caliber (7.62x54R of course), and if it wasn't sufficient, my permit would be cancelled. The rifle was still sitting in the shop after postage and paid for, thankfully they let this one go through but I'm not sure that they'll allow me to acquire any more :(
Why is that? Do they think you are arming a 4 man subversive militia?
In all honesty, that's exactly what they would've assumed The government really doesn't want people to own firearms at all down here, let alone a bunch of them.
I could probably arm my neighborhood, and a few guys here could arm their whole town. Despite the current administration that has been voted in, at heart we Yanks as you fellows call us, are an obstinate bunch.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
Celt wrote:I think its great that in places like that, the people still find joy in collecting and shooting. Can't keep good men down where ever it may be! Can't wait to see more of that beautiful rifle
Its my personal opinion (and theory, which I've yet to see disproved) that a certain percentage of people are born with what I call the "gun gene", even if you don't know you've got it. At the first exposure to gun powder, this gene kicks in and there is nothing you can do on heaven or earth to stop it
I reckon this theory holds true, from everything I've observed in the time I've been licensed.
And no I can't wait to get a close up look at it either
TheSovietSamurai wrote:I can't see the regulations changing anytime soon around here, at least not in our favor. My little "Collection" was almost shut down recently when the licensing and regulations division evaluated my latest permit and stated that they needed a written explanation as to why I required a fourth rifle of the same caliber (7.62x54R of course), and if it wasn't sufficient, my permit would be cancelled. The rifle was still sitting in the shop after postage and paid for, thankfully they let this one go through but I'm not sure that they'll allow me to acquire any more :(
Dammit, Samurai! And I thought you Victorians had it all over us, what with your (how many minutes is it now?) ridiculously short PTA-waiting times
That is really ridiculous mate. Thank god NSW hasn't got that far - yet. We still have the "new" PTAs yet to come in so hey maybe they'll change it then
Could it be feasible for you go for a Collectors licence?
millman wrote:I could probably arm my neighborhood, and a few guys here could arm their whole town. Despite the current administration that has been voted in, at heart we Yanks as you fellows call us, are an obstinate bunch.
And LONG MAY IT REMAIN SO!
Otherwise, who is going to provide the (often unobtainable) gun porn for us to drool over?
desdem12 wrote:Nice one. The carbine is a 1944 or an early 1945 as it only has one ear on the bayonet lug. This helps date it to that time period so it could very well be a 1944.
Yep, I was just going to post this. I had to look at one of my rifles to confirm it though. I can't remember all this stuff.
millman wrote:That PTA sounds like a PITA. Is there any chance that you all will ever be able to turn back the clock on all of those regulations? Being a privilege, I suppose not. Did you have to give anything up, when they first passed all those laws?
All I can say is more power to you. Glad to here there are still collectors down there. Please stop by the RMNF with any questions you may have.
Thanks for the kind invitation millman. Probably have quite a few questions to annoy you all with
Yeah we had to give up all semi-auto longarms in 1996, including semi/pump action shotguns (but rather bizarrely, not pump action rifles? ) So the majority who had little bunny-busting semi .22s lost them at that time. Relatively few people had what you might call the "military-style" centrefire semi autos anyway.
Next lot of laws passed in 2003 restricted the majority of competition handgun owners (as there is no other kind allowed!) to a maximum .38cal (over this permitted for hical metallic silhouette comps only)
So we keep on keeping on with what we have left. Thank god the powers that be never decided to lump milsurps into the "of military appearance" categorisation Lol
They' come up with some great stuff.
Did you have to give anything up, when they first passed all those laws?
The government really doesn't want people to own firearms at all down here, let alone a bunch of them.
) So the majority who had little bunny-busting semi .22s lost them at that time. Relatively few people had what you might call the "military-style" centrefire semi autos anyway.
