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This is my first post. I just bought this SKY marked rifle. The biggest problem I can see is the previous owner rattle canned it. I plan on trying to restore this as best I can and strip the paint off of the stock and metal. This picture is all I have at the moment. I know this is Sako rework? any help with this identification would be appreciated. The marking on the side is boxed SA. I'm trying to soak all I can from this site in. I feel like I am drinking from a fire hose of information at this moment. Thanks
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Pictures of the whole rifle would help with the ID. Paint thinner might take some of that off the metal, the Finns used an oil finish on the wood, not the shellac of the soviets so what you would use to strip paint off furniture may work on this also. I am not an expert on removing paint from wood while trying to retain the original finish under it, proceed with caution.
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Take it all apart and use lacquer thinner on the metal parts, that should dissolve the paint. I would try mineral spirits and a rag on the wood. You want to get the paint off without sanding or bleaching out the wood. Test it in a small out of the way spot first. What kind of moron paints a rifle like that??? Good luck. BTW, I think it is a M28/30.

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Dang it, Bubba at his finest again, he never fails to piss me of with his handiwork.

Follow the advice from Millman, and just take it slow and easy on the stock. Keep us posted with updates on how your rescue it doing.

Oh before I forget, welcome to the RMNF and the madness. Milsurp weapons have a nasty habit of multiplying when you aren't looking. In other words prepare to be poor, and you'll be surprised how many recipes for dressing up Ramen are out there.

Quick note, don't know if you seen/found the Knowlwdgebase section of the forum? Lots of good information there for you. If not here is the link for it, it's also accessible by clicking on the blue Knowledgebase button.

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They probably did zero preparation on the wood before buggering it up. That will make the spray paint come off easier. Don't take sandpaper or steel wool to anything. Try mineral spirits on the wood first, it is less agressive than paint thinner. If you have to go with paint thinner on the wood, do it very sparingly. In the tight spots, you can probabably use a paint brush with a little thinner on it. What ever gets the paint off will dry the stock out. When you get the paint off, some lemon oil furniture polish will, most likely, return the wood to close to its original look. I would use mineral spirits on the metal and that stuff should wipe right off. It is hard to believe that some ass-hat clown would do that to a nice rifle. Bubba lives!
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I appreciate all the feedback.
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That’sa quick way to turn a 800.00 rifle into a 200.00 rifle and I can’t imagine how you can get all that off it without a massive undertaking. Definitely work on the wood and metal separately and careful with the wood. A new stock is highly unlikely to be found without luck and a bag of cash
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Your rifle is an M28/30. Shame about the paint. Looks like it was in really good condition. The paint should come off the metal with some work.
I don't think there is any way to remove that paint without removing some of the original finish from the wood. I'd be tempted to try very light sanding with brass wool--just enough to try to scrape the paint off. Chemicals usually give wood a horrible appearance. You might be able to flake the paint off though, and lightly use chemicals as a last resort in the stubborn areas.
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I had an old Dreyse pistol that was spray painted. Someone mentioned to me that WD40 would remove it.
I tried it. It worked great. All of the paint came off with minimal work.
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Oh my Gxx!
What would poses a person to do that to a M28-30!!!!!

Well, work with what you got and work slowly. Try things on small areas of the stock that are not seen first.

The metal will usually not be a problem removing the paint unless the idiots sanded it first.

Like they said above ...... $800 (PLUS) rifle down to about $200. What a shame!

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He got the paint off and it turned out great. His pics were lost in the recent forum outage.
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Thanks for the update millman!!
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Here is an update and photos that I lost. I am making slow progress but its getting there. The last photo is the first coat of Tru oil. The barrel is stamped CAI M28
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The before the tru oil pic is about the way it would have looked originally.
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Oh God. You did such a good job removing the paint...and then, Tru Oil! Uggghhh
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One step to far.

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Dang, I was worried about that...
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Yeah that was a big oops
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For future reference....since the finish was already harmed by bubba...the Finns did use BLO for some of their finished rifles (according to this old post by Mangrove...post #69 https://www.gunboards.com/threads/so-wh ... 225/page-4). So, if you felt the stock absolutely needed something, you would have been better off using BLO--ONLY if the original finish had been destroyed by bubba's paint job, or by removing bubba's paint job.
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Tis is the finished product. I decided to give it to my son for Christmas. I will let him decide what action he wants to take regarding the finish I put on the stock.
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