Mosin 91/30

[Stan12]

Hello Collector,

I recently bought this mosin. It has been refurbished but I would like to get some more information about the markings.

Thanks in advance.

Stan

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[qz2026]

Now, that's on oddball... Looked like a matching Hungarian M-44.... I was thinking... wow, what a nice Hungarian...That is until I saw the rifle itself (which is Russian). That bit of weld or solder on the receiver is kind of odd too. It really looks like someone stuck a Russian carbine in a Hungarian stock and called it good. It appears that even the bolt is Hungarian and matching to the magazine and butt plate.. That said, it's a bit odd that the s/n don't have Hungarian prefixes... Either it's was someone's bad idea of a bubba or it was a refurbishment that came out of Cugir Romania.. I think, I've seen everything now...

[Stan12]

Now, that's on oddball... Looked like a matching Hungarian M-44.... I was thinking... wow, what a nice Hungarian...That is until I saw the rifle itself (which is Russian). That bit of weld or solder on the receiver is kind of odd too. It really looks like someone stuck a Russian carbine in a Hungarian stock and called it good. It appears that even the bolt is Hungarian and matching to the magazine and butt plate.. That said, it's a bit odd that the s/n don't have Hungarian prefixes... Either it's was someone's bad idea of a bubba or it was a refurbishment that came out of Cugir Romania.. I think, I've seen everything now...

I don't know what it is too. The bit of solder is because of the dutch law of making weapons unusable. The weapon length and barrel length match with an 91/30. It is strange because the numbers of the bolt etc are matching to the rifle itself.

[Stan12]

Now, that's on oddball... Looked like a matching Hungarian M-44.... I was thinking... wow, what a nice Hungarian...That is until I saw the rifle itself (which is Russian). That bit of weld or solder on the receiver is kind of odd too. It really looks like someone stuck a Russian carbine in a Hungarian stock and called it good. It appears that even the bolt is Hungarian and matching to the magazine and butt plate.. That said, it's a bit odd that the s/n don't have Hungarian prefixes... Either it's was someone's bad idea of a bubba or it was a refurbishment that came out of Cugir Romania.. I think, I've seen everything now...

Now, that's on oddball... Looked like a matching Hungarian M-44.... I was thinking... wow, what a nice Hungarian...That is until I saw the rifle itself (which is Russian). That bit of weld or solder on the receiver is kind of odd too. It really looks like someone stuck a Russian carbine in a Hungarian stock and called it good. It appears that even the bolt is Hungarian and matching to the magazine and butt plate.. That said, it's a bit odd that the s/n don't have Hungarian prefixes... Either it's was someone's bad idea of a bubba or it was a refurbishment that came out of Cugir Romania.. I think, I've seen everything now...

I have measured the barrel length and the length of the whole rifle. It has good measurements for a 91/30 rifle.
The welding spot is because of dutch laws of deactivation. This is seen on a lot of rifles in our country.
I am also not sure what is is because the bolt and other parts are numbered 800. The same number as Russian made Rifle. I hope I will find answers. Thanks for your reply

[bunkysdad]

Yes this is a 91/30 not a carbine. The thing that comes to my mind is that it is a matching parts Tula 1942 rifle that was put into a very nice Hungarian stock. Decommissioned by drilling a hole through the receiver and barrel and welding it back up. Is there a pin or rod in the welded area that extends into the inside of the chamber area? What about the bayonet? Does it have a serial # that might happ n to match?
By the way Stan, welcome to the forum. Tell us about yourself. Are you in Denmark? That weld is more substantial than solder[emoji846]

[Stan12]

Yes this is a 91/30 not a carbine. The thing that comes to my mind is that it is a matching parts Tula 1942 rifle that was put into a very nice Hungarian stock. Decommissioned by drilling a hole through the receiver and barrel and welding it back up. Is there a pin or rod in the welded area that extends into the inside of the chamber area? What about the bayonet? Does it have a serial # that might happ n to match?
By the way Stan, welcome to the forum. Tell us about yourself. Are you in Denmark? That weld is more substantial than solder[emoji846]

Hello,

Thanks for your reply. My name is Stan and I am 23 years old. I live in the northern part of The Netherlands.
Yes there is a pin inside the barrel and receiver. This is because of the laws in our country. Could it be that the hungarian refurbished this rifle and made the parts matching? And put it in a new stock?
I picked it up for a very reasonable price and I was very excited to do some research on this rifle. It has many parts that are stamped with the hungarian 02 marking

[millman]

Could it be a put together piece for the demilled market?

[boltaction]

Hello,
A waste of a good rifle(demilled)....IMO.
I won't say what I'd do about the pin.... Yet, a nice wall hanger. You shouldn't get in any trouble leaving that one out of the safe... Ain't a firearm anymore.

[Stan12]

Could it be a put together piece for the demilled market?

Hello,

I am not sure about this because of all the matching numbers... the bolt and buttplate match with the numbers on the barrel. And everything is "02" marked which is hungarian just like the stock is. The strange thing is the buttplate and bolt are hungarian marked and match the number on the barel. I have never seen this before.

[Stan12]

Hello,
A waste of a good rifle(demilled)....IMO.
I won't say what I'd do about the pin.... Yet, a nice wall hanger. You shouldn't get in any trouble leaving that one out of the safe... Ain't a firearm anymore.

Hello,

Gun laws in our country (The Netherlands) are very strict.
It is almost impossible to own a gun like this in working condition. The pin etc. are put in because of the laws so people like me who love guns can still own them.
I am not sure about this one but it still is a very beautiful rifle to see in my opinion.

Stan

[millman]

Could it be a put together piece for the demilled market?

Hello,

I am not sure about this because of all the matching numbers... the bolt and buttplate match with the numbers on the barrel. And everything is "02" marked which is hungarian just like the stock is. The strange thing is the buttplate and bolt are hungarian marked and match the number on the barel. I have never seen this before.

Do you have any photos of it out of the stock? There might be some clues under the wood. I would like to see the tang stamp.

[Stan12]

Could it be a put together piece for the demilled market?

Hello,

I am not sure about this because of all the matching numbers... the bolt and buttplate match with the numbers on the barrel. And everything is "02" marked which is hungarian just like the stock is. The strange thing is the buttplate and bolt are hungarian marked and match the number on the barel. I have never seen this before.

Do you have any photos of it out of the stock? There might be some clues under the wood. I would like to see the tang stamp.

I do not have any photo's of it out of the wood unfortunately... strangest thing is all parts are marked with the hungarian 02 and also match the number of the russian barrel. Maybe the hungarians used russian barrels and other parts for hungarian uprising because it is also in a hungarian stock.

Stan