1914 PTG M91 converted to 91/38

[willyj73]

I took some better photograps of a 91/38 Mosin I purchased a few years ago. Rifle was a WW1 captured M91 long rifle that was subsequently converted into a carbine after WW2. I cannot verify, but I've seen it stated that the "R" marking was applied by Hungary.
Rifle was a PTG. The eagles were smaller from 1912-1914. Tula switched to the more commonly seen larger eagle in 1914.

[willyj73]

More photos

[Longcolt44]

She's a pretty one and well done.

[neal45]

Wonderful photos of a beautiful carbine. Thanks for posting.

[qz2026]

I'm thinking that the rifle, in it's previous life, made it's way into Austrian hands as evidenced by the AZF on the receiver and the Z on the bottom of the barrel. Since Budapest was in the Austro-Hungarian empire, I would suspect that this is what the "R" stamping represents. I'm assuming that the receiver date matches the barrel date? As usual, these carbines have a story to tell... For the collector, a nice find.

[willyj73]

Thanks guys. The receiver tang is dated 1914.

[qz2026]

Thanks guys. The receiver tang is dated 1914.

The tang indicates Tula? It should be stamped 914r. with a hammer above. Most of these were matched up with their original receiver. The other parts, not so much. At least you got a pre-1928 bolt.

[willyj73]

Thanks guys. The receiver tang is dated 1914.

The tang indicates Tula? It should be stamped 914r. with a hammer above. Most of these were matched up with their original receiver. The other parts, not so much. At least you got a pre-1928 bolt.

914r indicates 1914. Yes, it is a Tula. I've been collecting for a few years, so I'm aware of the tang dates. Can't remember some details of the early ones such as when manufacturers switched from two digits to three, which makers used the full date and when they started, and which ones didn't put dates on early ones. The easy stuff though, I can remember.

[airbornetrooper]

That's a really neat find. Not sure I've ever seen one converted from a PTG Tula before. Usually they are Izhevsk conversions.

[qz2026]

Oh, definitely done and not uncommon. I had a 1915 and a 1916 Tula... And, actually, I never found an Izhevsk in 91/38 configuration that was manufactured during the "PTG" years of 1915 and 1916. I would like to have but they never showed up, at least for me... I had a 1913 and a 1914 Izhevsk though. Based on what I had, the ratio of Tula's to Izhevsk's, were 1/3rd being Tula.