Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
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Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
Hello all,
I just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant M91 after not having one for better than 20 years. I ran into this one in my local gun shop, has a great bore and rifling and the action is excellent.
The Remington has some various stampings that I haven't been able to decipher, it's all numbers matching except for the bolt.
On the left side of the stock and the magazine are the same numbers, it's not a SSN because there is a letter prefix, (letter A) and SSN numbers don't have a letter. It's also a digit or so off from being a US Service ID.
On the receiver above the serial number is a strange stamp, can't find it anywhere online.
This letter K is on the right side of the barrel by the receiver, I'm guessing an inspector mark?
On the left side of the stock in the groove on the forearm is this letter "h" or "y". It's large, about 1/2 inch tall. Not sure who or where would have used it.
The very forward part of the triggerguard.
The top of the tang at the rear where the bolt enters the receiver.
This is the only mark left on the stock that I can see, it's on the left side, it's so warn down you can't even feel it. I was wondering if it's the faint image of "MP" and "8" under it but the gun is pretty nice to be a Spanish Civil War gun.
The front sight is from a 91/30, the barrel length is still original at 31 inches. The front barrel band also has a Izhevsk stamp on it (pre-1928).
There are no Finnish markings on it that I can tell, I see no SA stamping on it anywhere. The rear sight is still in Arshins and the numbers have not been crossed out and no new numbers are stamped on the right side.
At the range the rifle does very well. The first group of five which shot low was 1982 dated surplus ammo, the second group which was pretty much point of aim was Brown Bear 174 grain.
At 100 yards I aimed a little higher and pulled one round low, these were also Brown Bear.
I just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant M91 after not having one for better than 20 years. I ran into this one in my local gun shop, has a great bore and rifling and the action is excellent.
The Remington has some various stampings that I haven't been able to decipher, it's all numbers matching except for the bolt.
On the left side of the stock and the magazine are the same numbers, it's not a SSN because there is a letter prefix, (letter A) and SSN numbers don't have a letter. It's also a digit or so off from being a US Service ID.
On the receiver above the serial number is a strange stamp, can't find it anywhere online.
This letter K is on the right side of the barrel by the receiver, I'm guessing an inspector mark?
On the left side of the stock in the groove on the forearm is this letter "h" or "y". It's large, about 1/2 inch tall. Not sure who or where would have used it.
The very forward part of the triggerguard.
The top of the tang at the rear where the bolt enters the receiver.
This is the only mark left on the stock that I can see, it's on the left side, it's so warn down you can't even feel it. I was wondering if it's the faint image of "MP" and "8" under it but the gun is pretty nice to be a Spanish Civil War gun.
The front sight is from a 91/30, the barrel length is still original at 31 inches. The front barrel band also has a Izhevsk stamp on it (pre-1928).
There are no Finnish markings on it that I can tell, I see no SA stamping on it anywhere. The rear sight is still in Arshins and the numbers have not been crossed out and no new numbers are stamped on the right side.
At the range the rifle does very well. The first group of five which shot low was 1982 dated surplus ammo, the second group which was pretty much point of aim was Brown Bear 174 grain.
At 100 yards I aimed a little higher and pulled one round low, these were also Brown Bear.
Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
The one number looks like a social security number with the letter "A" after it. Years ago people, especially in the military marked their property with their SSN. My dad had all his stereo components and our TV maked with his SSN.
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
I was able to do a SSN look up using this number without the "A" prefix, and that number belonged to a woman named Alice. Not saying a woman couldn't have owned this gun, but it sounds like it would be a long shot.
Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
The number may be related to a hunting license or driver license number.
I'd replace the front sight globe with an original blade so it will raise the point of impact, which is off due to the mismatched sights.
Nice find!
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I'd replace the front sight globe with an original blade so it will raise the point of impact, which is off due to the mismatched sights.
Nice find!
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
The rifle has a beautiful piece of walnut on it, the wood looks great.
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
That one is a keeper
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
40 in box (currently it is strike out) is marking of the repair depot in Bryansk, Russia. Was used in 1930's.Capital Д is acceptance marking from the same depot
https://www.m9130.info/repair-depot-markings
https://www.m9130.info/repair-depot-markings
Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
Is that also why there is a "P" on the tang? I was told the "P" signifies a repair.Ratnik wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 2:24 am 40 in box (currently it is strike out) is marking of the repair depot in Bryansk, Russia. Was used in 1930's.Capital Д is acceptance marking from the same depot
https://www.m9130.info/repair-depot-markings
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
You might get a little better group with the fine point sight also. I'm looking for one that stayed stateside, My great Grandpa was home guard commander here in WW1 and had 20 of them issued to his his unit.
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Re: Just acquired a Remington made Mosin Nagant with some strange stampings
Depending from the location/context. Not always it indicates repair. In this particular case I think it's just a proofmark. Indication of the repair - repair depot marking on the barrel.willyj73 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:40 amIs that also why there is a "P" on the tang? I was told the "P" signifies a repair.Ratnik wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 2:24 am 40 in box (currently it is strike out) is marking of the repair depot in Bryansk, Russia. Was used in 1930's.Capital Д is acceptance marking from the same depot
https://www.m9130.info/repair-depot-markings
Similar pattern marking, but with intact "40 in box". besides, former Geco sniper
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