UPDATED INFORMATION 1-1-2019: from my M91/38 database

[Herpto]

Where do you guys find these? I can’t find one to save my life!

[qz2026]

Where do you guys find these? I can’t find one to save my life!

You see them on GunBroker. Every couple of months one will show up. I think one sold last week, or so. A 1914 I think. Other than that, you need to keep your eyes open and, anymore, have a thick wallet.

[heptoras]

Here is mine I picked up recently. Tula 1898. EP'd bolt. Digit 5.
Here are pictures:

I'm not too sure on the stock type, but I believe it is the Czech blonde stock. It has numbers in a square above the buttplate.

[qz2026]

They all have the box 17 and box 20 stamps on the top of the butt stock (as do the 91/59's-at least most of them). This likely means that the stock was reworked by the Czechs and could mean that the carbines were entirely done by them. But the word on that is still out... The Stock could be a cut down M-91 stock, an M-38 stock or an M-44 stock. The escutcheons, finger grooves and bayonet grooves tell the true story. The 1898's aren't as common as some others. It seems that they used an awful lot of 1899's for some reason.

[neal45]

Nice clean 91/38 heptoras, thanks for posting.

[steelbuttplate]

Nice clean 91/38 heptoras, thanks for posting.

Is there a theory or factual reason why these were all made from Imperial pre-'17 rifles ?

[neal45]

I don't know if anyone knows for sure. But they have been found later than pre 1917.
The following late ones have been posted.

1917 Remington (two)
1920 Izhevsk

[heptoras]

Hi, I picked up another m91/38. It's Izhevsk built in 1897.
Here are some pictures of the rifle:

[heptoras]

Hi, I picked up another M91/38. This one is made by Izhevsk in 1897. Looks to be in a blonde M44 stock.
Album:

[neal45]

Thanks heptoras, I have added it to the database.
Does it have a stamped or electro-pencilled serial on the bolt?

[heptoras]

Thanks heptoras, I have added it to the database.
Does it have a stamped or electro-pencilled serial on the bolt?

Apologies for the double post earlier and my late reply. It is electro-penciled in.

[qz2026]

Hi, I picked up another m91/38. It's Izhevsk built in 1897.
Here are some pictures of the rifle:

This link doesn't work. Did you delete the photos? I'd be interested to see them.

[heptoras]

This link doesn't work. Did you delete the photos? I'd be interested to see them.

Sorry about that. Just took some new photos of my 1897 Izhevsk, here is the link:

Image #9 shows some Czech markings on the left side of the stock. My 1898 Tula doesn't have these markings. Could this be one of the Czech blonde stocks?

[neal45]

Nice photos and nice Mosin, it is in the Database.

[racerguy00]

This link doesn't work. Did you delete the photos? I'd be interested to see them.

Sorry about that. Just took some new photos of my 1897 Izhevsk, here is the link:

Image #9 shows some Czech markings on the left side of the stock. My 1898 Tula doesn't have these markings. Could this be one of the Czech blonde stocks?

The circle KK stamp seems to be more linked to Bulgaria more so than Czechoslovakia. There has been some comparisons with Bulgarian weapons and equipment that have the same markings lately.