The first Civil Guard order for m/39 was actually placed in the summer of 1940. It was consisted of 4000 rifles to be produced by SAKO.Genetically Swiss wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:24 pm Most of us familiar with Finnish Mosin-Nagant and Civil Guard (SK.Y) weapons in particular, know that SAKO Civil Guard production ran from 1942 to 1944.
Excellent, I have two 1941 Sako straight stock M39's that are outside the "accepted" serial number range of 200000-206200 but in all other ways look correct and unrefurbished and I've always suspected that they were original. It just doesn't make sense that Sako would use all 6200 straight stocks before installing any of the new pistol grip stocks, especially if they had multiple assembly lines running at the same time. In case you don't have them already my two are SN# 207945(also PL marked) and SN# 207367dolk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:17 pm I have the serial numbers of nearly 350 Straight Stock M39's.
I can't show it right now because I am moving to a new host for my websites (not this one). I have another 10 or so I don't have on that list to add. I will work on it and try to get them posted here very soon. Before next week?
Darryl
Barrel Date Low Serial High Serial Minimum Produced Maximum Produced Number of Serial
Number Number by Year by Year Numbers in
Database by Year
1942 500000 503934 3934 4009 ~106
1943 504009 509029 5020 5070 ~148
1944 509079 510810 1731 1781 ~53 I have the 207945 but not the 2307367ssg_lord wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:49 amExcellent, I have two 1941 Sako straight stock M39's that are outside the "accepted" serial number range of 200000-206200 but in all other ways look correct and unrefurbished and I've always suspected that they were original. It just doesn't make sense that Sako would use all 6200 straight stocks before installing any of the new pistol grip stocks, especially if they had multiple assembly lines running at the same time. In case you don't have them already my two are SN# 207945(also PL marked) and SN# 207367dolk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:17 pm I have the serial numbers of nearly 350 Straight Stock M39's.
I can't show it right now because I am moving to a new host for my websites (not this one). I have another 10 or so I don't have on that list to add. I will work on it and try to get them posted here very soon. Before next week?
Darryl
According to the Finnish records, SAKO had 6200 straight stock blanks for m/39 ready in late 1940. In order to hasten the production, the Ministry of Defence authorised them to use no more than 7000 straight stocks in m/39 production. There's no mention of specific serial number range for these straight stock m/39 in the archives.dolk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:55 pmThis would seem to indicate they used over 8,000 straight stocks or they mixed in pistol grip stocks in at some point.Did they have more stocks than 7,000 to start with? Perhaps 8,000? This would explain the M39's with straight stocks on them from 200,000 to 207,999.
Welcome back, this is Bob's old board, just under different ownership since 2011. What caused the price increase? You're kidding right? For starters age, it's been over 30 years since the bulk of the Finn built Mosins came into the USA, 20 years since collectors began to take serious notice of them and information about them began to be accessible on the internet. Ten -12 years since demand exceeded available supply from the surplus sellers. Two years since the country went off the rails and things got insane on the gun market, and ammo. My friend watched some guy at a flea market pay $850 for a Bubba sporterized US M1917 Remington rifle a few days ago, the seller had been asking a grand. In light of that can you imagine what that same guy might pay for a nice M39. That lunacy coupled with the ever higher demand from collectors for these rifles is driving prices to heights unimagined when I was buying them for less than a C note 30 years back. It's a different world now.