Savage No4 Mk1 1942
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Savage No4 Mk1 1942
I am helping one of my good customers liquidate his late fathers guns, among them is a nice Savage No4 Mk1. I haven't tore it down yet, but I see it's been through FTR, seems to still have many Savage parts , matching numbers. This will be for sale after I evaluate it, but first I have a few other sporters to sell off that will appear soon in the for sale forum, and on GB. If I didn't already have one or two I might keep this myself, and no, it's not being sold cheap unless he tells me to do that. He's recently retired, moving up north to manage a charter fishing boat, not broke or in a hurry, and is keeping the really cool shit. I got to handle his dads WW1 era Colt 1911, the man carried it in WW2, and his Winchester 1897 bird gun. They are not for sale, trust me I tried, there were some fairly large numbers on the table for that Colt. After I go over it the SMLE will be for sale, maybe I will buy it anyway, I am already keeping a nice Mossberg 144 LS, and am thinking about the 1974 Marlin 336 .35 rem ( unfired) The Marlin sat in the safe so long it's insides glued shut from it's own dried lubricant. There is also a super nice 1966 Belgian Browning light 20 won at a raffle in '67 and never used. Safe queens. He never fired the Enfield either, no import mark so it's pre 68. All kinds of cool shit.
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Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Savage No4 Mk1 1942
No pictures yet for the Winchester boys rifle, Western Field ( Mossberg) 20 gauge bolt action, or the Stevens .410 break open. They all have use on them and long storage, need a lot of cleaning up. Now when I say I have to stay home and clean guns this weekend that's exactly what I will be doing. Took most of Sunday to get the 336 apart and cleaned up. In the process I managed to bugger one small screw even with the correct screwdriver, it just wouldn't come loose until the bitter end. I will have to replace it if I sell the rifle. Action is slick now, and I just bought 60 rounds of .35 for my other 336.
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Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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That's very cool especially the Enfield and the 1911.
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Re: Savage No4 Mk1 1942
Nice Enfield. From the markings, it got reworked by Royal Ordinance Factory Fazakerly post war. My No. 4 Mk1/3 got rebuilt at ROF Fazakerly as well.
The British Army sent many service rifles and other small arms back to the factories for work as part of a plan to keep as many people at work as possible. Fazakerly had labor issues in the 1950s and the Ministry of Defense wound up closing it and shipping all of the equipment to Pakistan.
The British Army sent many service rifles and other small arms back to the factories for work as part of a plan to keep as many people at work as possible. Fazakerly had labor issues in the 1950s and the Ministry of Defense wound up closing it and shipping all of the equipment to Pakistan.
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Re: Savage No4 Mk1 1942
I still haven't stripped it down for cleaning, not that it's all that dirty. M37 needed a carb rebuild so I have been busy. Yes, it is FTR Fazakerly, it's engraved on the receiver, most were gone over post WW2. The socialists killed the arsenal with constant labor disputes. Everyone wanting a larger piece of the pie, and more time off and such, killed their own jobs, and the arsenal.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Keep us posted on what is going on with the stuff you decide to sell.
Damn, I'll bet that's going to leave a mark! Probably hurt too!
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Re: Savage No4 Mk1 1942
20 years ago I would have kept all of it, now I have examples of much of it and limited space. The 336 is very tempting given it's an unused rifle and the new examples don't come close to it in quality or fit and finish, but I already have one. Same for the Enfield, in fact I think I have two of them, no import mark is nice, but I don't need three that I don't shoot. The Winchester is way too small for me, and I have a bolt action shotgun, lots of break open shotguns, even a .410 under over Stevens from around 1948, and so many .22's that I have lost track of them. None of these are mine, and I will be selling them all if I ever get the time to finish cleaning them and taking some good auction pictures.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Re: Savage No4 Mk1 1942
For when you advertise it, a No.4 Mk 1 or 2 isn't a SMLE, it's a No. 4 Mk whatever. SMLE - taken from Rifle, Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield only refers to the No.1 Mk whatever, the WWI version where the wood goes all the way to the muzzle. The Short part was to differentiate it from the earlier longer model Lee-Enfield. The No.4 was a new rifle and didn't carry the SMLE designation.
Yours is a No.4 Mk1* the * indicates small changes from the Mk1 to make production easier. Small difference but important to LE collectors.
Nice rifle.
Yours is a No.4 Mk1* the * indicates small changes from the Mk1 to make production easier. Small difference but important to LE collectors.
Nice rifle.
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I know Bill, I have many of these rifles of all types both world wars and before as well as after from various countries and arsenals. I am just being lazy and calling it a smelly. This rifle has a new owner now who will have it in a few days. In the old days I would have bought it myself despite having ones like it already. I am working on the hoarding thing.Cottage Hill Bill wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:06 am For when you advertise it, a No.4 Mk 1 or 2 isn't a SMLE, it's a No. 4 Mk whatever. SMLE - taken from Rifle, Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield only refers to the No.1 Mk whatever, the WWI version where the wood goes all the way to the muzzle. The Short part was to differentiate it from the earlier longer model Lee-Enfield. The No.4 was a new rifle and didn't carry the SMLE designation.
Yours is a No.4 Mk1* the * indicates small changes from the Mk1 to make production easier. Small difference but important to LE collectors.
Nice rifle.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt