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I want to share some additional photos and information about the Remington 1917 Mosin Nagent I posted the other day in the new members area. It is a WWII brought back from Japan by my father in 1946, so it no doubt could tell and interesting story if it could talk. I want to find out all I can about this rifle so feel free to post observations and comments. I have not shot it, it doesn’t have a front sight and I would obviously want to be sure that the head space was ok prior to doing that anyway.
Marks on the stock:
Markings on the barrel:
Other side of the rifle:
The serial numbers on the bolt, butt plate and bottom of the magazine all have the same number 45343 however the safety knob (not sure of actual nomenclature) has 46343 but it almost looks like it was restruck, (I'll post a photo later the computer's giving issues.) Obviously these do not match the SN of the rifle, or at least of the barrel.
Very nice looking Remington! There were a couple of railroad cars filled with US made Mosins that were captured by the Japanese at the end of the first World War. Many of them became training rifles at the schools back in Japan. A lot of those were stamped in Kanji with the name of the school, or painted on the butt of the stock. Looks like there may have been more paint on the stock than what's currently there. Did your dad have any paperwork that went with the rifle? For the front sight, take a look at Liberty Tree Collectors (forum sponsor). They usually have some front sight blades. Okie (another great sponsor) makes a great set of gauges for checking headspace, well worth the money.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say I'm not the only person who wants more pictures!
I love these Japanese WWII bringback M91's. They aren't common at all, but I've seen enough that I hope someday I'll come across one too. Beautiful rifle!!!
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Nice condition, all around. However, it's a barreled action from one rifle, and the rest of the parts from a different rifle, so whether or not the safety matches, seems a moot point.
JER wrote:Nice condition, all around. However, it's a barreled action from one rifle, and the rest of the parts from a different rifle, so whether or not the safety matches, seems a moot point.
That's what my conclusion was as well. I've never had the action out of the stock, I need to do that one of these days to see if there's anything there to tell me more about the rifle.
The stock is in great shape, very few dings anywhere to indicate it was used very much. The painted number is not only painted but that area appears to have been either carved in or pushed in, definitely lower and then filled with paint. There are no other such areas to be seen on the rifle stock to indicate there were additional numbers. There are some marks under the rear sight, I'm going to try to get a good photo of those today.
I like it. The stock is a nice piece of walnut as it should be. No handguard. That is not uncommon. They were delicate on these and sure difficult to find these days, but a missing handguard has never bothered me on these. Very nice rifle.
