Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
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Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Hey everyone
I was wondering if anyone could provide some experience in the quality of the Hungarian made M91/30?
I have seen one advertised and was tempted to pick it up. They are claiming 'unissued condition' but wanted to see what they are like quality wise compared to others and if anyone had first hand experience with them?
Cheers
Simmo
I was wondering if anyone could provide some experience in the quality of the Hungarian made M91/30?
I have seen one advertised and was tempted to pick it up. They are claiming 'unissued condition' but wanted to see what they are like quality wise compared to others and if anyone had first hand experience with them?
Cheers
Simmo
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Going by my bm52 PU sniper I would have to say the quality is good, at least when they came out of the arsenal. Years or use can wear on a rifle, you have to judge each one as they come. Fit and finish is excellent.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Hungarian 91/30's are almost unknown here, few if any were imported into the US, the few we do have are PU snipers, these were a highly valued trophy for US servicemen during the Vietnam war. The Hungarians briefly fought with the Soviets during the 1956 uprising, but otherwise most of their Mosins would have seen a life of storage or barracks use so the unissued claim is likely true.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
I have two of them which I got in unissued condition. Nicely made with quite good workmanship and they're great shooters, too.
1910 Arg. Mauser M1909 (long rifle)
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Thanks guys, i appreciate the advice about these. I have already met my quota for additional rifles this year(a recent purchase of an M38 swede Mauser did that) but I'm tempted as I'm loving the 7.62x54R calibre in my '41 Sako M39 and figured one more in this calibre would go great
Too many guns to buy...not enough money or time to shoot them all :-(
Too many guns to buy...not enough money or time to shoot them all :-(
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Well if it is in fact a Hungarian 91/30, and in good condition, let alone unissued, and matching numbers, if you can get it you should if the price is right. You might be shocked to know what such a rifle would bring in the US. Besides, you can't meet your yearly rifle quota by the first week of January. That is rediculous. Clearly your quota is flawed.
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
haha...yeh mate it's not my preference to intentionally cut short expansion plans for my collection but requirements on safe storage and paper work required prior to purchasing over here means any purchase comes with a real opportunity cost and investment. I might unload a crappy little .22LR i have to make some room in my safe. Price is 795AUD...around 550USD.
I'm surprised they are not more common in the states. I'm really enjoying the calibre and I'm starting to reload for it now. Would love to see how it would run in the military service rifle comps next to my M39. Do you guys reload for your mosins or purely running the surplus stuff?
I'm surprised they are not more common in the states. I'm really enjoying the calibre and I'm starting to reload for it now. Would love to see how it would run in the military service rifle comps next to my M39. Do you guys reload for your mosins or purely running the surplus stuff?
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
I like to reload, the 7.62x54r is a nice round to reload for and with some mild cast bullets they are actually very inexpensive to shoot which saves my surplus ammo for future fun.
Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Here you can find plenty of detail pictures of one of my Hungarian 91/30s:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=21645
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... =5&t=21630
As said, now I have even two of them (one with the common, blonde beech stock, one with the rarer elm stock - BTW, some very early examples even had dark walnut stocks):
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25913
Maybe these pictures will finally convince you to buy one of those fine rifles - you won't regret it!
And when you finally got one, here you can check whether all parts have the correct "02" stamping or not...:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24407
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=21645
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... =5&t=21630
As said, now I have even two of them (one with the common, blonde beech stock, one with the rarer elm stock - BTW, some very early examples even had dark walnut stocks):
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25913
Maybe these pictures will finally convince you to buy one of those fine rifles - you won't regret it!
And when you finally got one, here you can check whether all parts have the correct "02" stamping or not...:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24407
1910 Arg. Mauser M1909 (long rifle)
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
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Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
7x57 they are absolutely beautiful. Those blonde ones with the matching bayonets are sublime
The one i'm looking at is at a shop interstate. So im relying on pictures being sent through to me...They are advertising as "Hungarian 02 markings" but Im asking for some better pictures.
DO you shoot those ones in the pictures you have included?
The one i'm looking at is at a shop interstate. So im relying on pictures being sent through to me...They are advertising as "Hungarian 02 markings" but Im asking for some better pictures.
DO you shoot those ones in the pictures you have included?
Re: Hungarian Mosin M91/30 quality
Thanks, and yes, I shoot them all (like all of my other milsurp rifles) - albeit only moderately (maybe 30-50 rounds during one session) and with immediate thorough cleaning, especially when using corrosive milsurp ammo. So far no problems encountered at all.aussimmo2015 wrote: DO you shoot those ones in the pictures you have included?
1910 Arg. Mauser M1909 (long rifle)
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z
1912 Braz. Mauser M1908 (long rifle)
1915 & 1943 Swed. Mauser M96
1934 Persian Mauser M1309
Two 1935 Braz. Mauser M1935 (short rifle)
1937 Braz. Mauser M1935 (long rifle)
1943 Finnish M39 (Sk.Y.)
1943 Izhevsk M1891/30 w. folding bay.
1943 Swiss K31
1947 Dutch "Wilhelmina" Mauser carbine
~1950 Hung. Lámpagyár Kispuska 48M (.22lr cadet rifle)
Two 1952 Hung. 48M
1955 British No. 4 Mk. 2
1968 Finnish M39
1977 6" Korth .357 Magnum
2012 H&K USP Expert .45 ACP
2016 H&K MR308 A3
2016 STEYR AUG Z