M91 lock ring bayonet

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M91 lock ring bayonet

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I'm hoping someone can help identify this bayonet I picked up.

I believe this is a 60 degree variant, but other than that, I'm not sure of it's heritage. First picture shows the only place I can find anything that might be a marking (to the left of the serial number).

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Re: M91 lock ring bayonet

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It does appear to be a 60 deg variant, which would narrow its production to the 1905-1910 era. So it would have to be a Tula, Izhevsk or Sestroryetsk.

There is a pretty large area where it looks like it has been scrubbed with a coarse file, possibly eliminating the maker's stamp.
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martin08 wrote:It does appear to be a 60 deg variant, which would narrow its production to the 1905-1910 era. So it would have to be a Tula, Izhevsk or Sestroryetsk.

There is a pretty large area where it looks like it has been scrubbed with a coarse file, possibly eliminating the maker's stamp.
Good info! I am familiar with the Tula and Izhevsk marks, but not the Sestroryetsk mark. I google imaged it, and came up with some of your fine photos, of course.

Then I took another look. Under a different light and angle, I was able to capture what could be part of a faint mark. This area looks like it was partially scrubbed as well. What do you think? Edit: I'm talking about the mark that looks like part of what looks like a "5" or an "S", just like in some of your pictures. Or does that not represent Sestroryetsk? Did they use an "S" as well as the Sestroryetsk arrow? Or is that mark mean something entirely different?

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I haven't seen any specific letters which would denote a Russian arsenal. If it was Sestroryetsk, it would have the arrow.
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I guess the maker of this one will remain a mystery then. Why would it have been scrubbed in the first place?
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