Antique Mosin Nagant or not?

MuzzleMarc · Post by **MuzzleMarc** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:27 pm

Hello guys

Is there any possibility to figure out if a listed Mosin Nagant is antique (pre 1899) if the year isn't mentioned? I know it should be mentioned if somebody is selling such a weapon, but it isn't every time.

MuzzleMarc

martin08 · Post by **martin08** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:35 pm

The only way to be sure is to see the receiver tang.

And if you are depending on a seller to read the tang, make sure he doesn't tear the left handed threads out of the bands, and that he knows how to read a tang!

Izhevsk762 · Post by **Izhevsk762** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:57 pm

If the mosin has a round receiver, it isn't an antique. If it has a hex receiver, it's possible that it's an antique, but like martin said, the only way to be sure is to check the tang.

MuzzleMarc · Post by **MuzzleMarc** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:59 pm

Thank you Martin for the information.
Now we hope he knows what he is doing. ;)

MuzzleMarc

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:36 pm

Sometimes that tang date has been removed, mostly by the Finns. A few quick ways to tell, if it's a Remington, or Westinghouse M91 then it's not an antique, round receiver as mentioned is not antique. Chances are good that any rifle with a barrel dated after 1899 is not antique. Any Finn built Mosin like the M27, or M39, as well as the Finn barreled M91's can have antique receivers.

MuzzleMarc · Post by **MuzzleMarc** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:43 pm

Very interesting and helpful information. Thank you very much

MuzzleMarc

Post by **Junk Yard Dog** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:35 am

martin08 · Post by **martin08** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:46 am

Junk Yard Dog wrote:

Ah, yes.

And if it has the (C) mark for Chatellerault, then there is no question! None of those were built after 1895.

Post by **bunkysdad** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:29 am

When I bought my M39 from Kari's dealer in the San Francisco Bay area I had it transferred to my local FFL and they called it in for the background. Then I got it home And found it to be a 1898 receiver. The benefit of not having to transfer guns through a dealer can add up in savings by not paying the fees. Fortunately my dealer didn't charge me the fee.

Post by **Rongo** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:29 pm

Some gun shops & dealers still treat an Antique as a regular firearm.

Izhevsk762 · Post by **Izhevsk762** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:22 pm

Rongoman wrote:Some gun shops & dealers still treat an Antique as a regular firearm.

Which is annoying, because they don't have to.

Post by **Darryl** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:19 pm

They don't have to but they are too lazy to sit down and try to figure out if it is or not. So they just treat it like the rest.

If people did buy they from them, then they would change, but they have no reason to.

I was in England about 18 or 20 years ago and went into a "Arms and Armour" store. I ended buying a percussion naval boarding pistol and the guy talked me into stuffing it into my luggage. He then gave ma a receipt saying it was an antique. Then he told me to give the receipt to the airlines when I checked in and everything would be OK. That was before all the 911 obviously and damned it he wasn't right. They told me no problem and took my luggage and checked it in.

Those were the old days!

Dolk

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