7.62x54R stripper clips in detail

[clayshooter2]

Thanks for posting this thread. I have some late production Izhevsk clips that I keep for my own use (just to have and shoot with, not so much collect) but I have never really sought out all the other variations. Thanks for the pictorial!

[FineRedMist]

Anyone know where milsurp ammo on stripper clips can be found now, or loose clips?


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[WeldonHunter]

Anyone know where milsurp ammo on stripper clips can be found now, or loose clips?


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Here's some Bulgarian on clips http://gun-deals.com/displaydeal.php?dealid=25726 It's not cheap but it looks like you'd get 2 clips and 10 rds of ammo. The clips are going to for roughly $2 to $5 a piece on E-Bay. If you look there searching Mosin Nagant Stripper Clips you'll find a bunch. Just be careful because a lot are reproductions. Liberty Tree Collectors had a bunch of them but they're sold out right now.

[clayshooter2]

Wow, $2-$5 each? A couple of years ago they were $.50-$1 each depending on the seller, and if the Izhevsk stamp was visible. I think I'm down to like 40 or 50 of them now. I guess I'm not giving any away as party favors anytime soon.

[FineRedMist]

Heck, I might pay the $14 for 30 rounds on 6 clips just to have enough to fill a pair of ammo pouches.


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[WeldonHunter]

Wow, $2-$5 each? A couple of years ago they were $.50-$1 each depending on the seller, and if the Izhevsk stamp was visible. I think I'm down to like 40 or 50 of them now. I guess I'm not giving any away as party favors anytime soon.

I'm looking at E-Bay right now and seeing 5 Izhevsk for $18, 6 at $14.99 with 2 bids, 6 at $20.99 with no bids and a bunch more. There's one for 5 in "Used Surplus Condition" that look like they might be real but it has a poor picture and makes no mention of them being actual surplus. Lots of reproductions and even an auction for 20 of the cardboard sleeves they came in for $30.

[7x57]

Time to add some new stuff here.

EASTERN EUROPE

ROMANIA - blued, "21 in circle" marked - dimensions are: length 66 mm, width 15 mm, height 12.5 mm

Probably produced at the Cugir factory, which also used a "21" code for its ammunition production.

[7x57]

HUNGARY - updated, now I have a few more

POLAND - updated, got one more

This second clip finally confirmed the Polish origin of these clips, because it came with Polish dummy rounds.

[7x57]

RUSSIA

LUGANSK - updated

One more clip from the Lugansk Cartridge Factory, very likely of WW I vintage, came together with the Romanian clips. Heavy patina, so it has a rather dark appearance, but is definitely NOT blued (as the photos may suggest). Note different style and size of the "Л" marking.

TULA (?) - possibly "hammer" marked - dimensions are: length 66 mm, width 15 mm, height 13.5 mm

This one also came together with the Romanian clips and its appearance and patina makes it very likely that it is from WW I, too. The "hammer" marking is rather faint and also partly gone due to corrosion. In reality it is better recognizable than on the picture, but I have to admit that there remains some uncertainty about the correct origin of this clip.


GREAT BRITAIN

PERRY & CO. LTD. (?) - "1/L" and "P" marked - dimensions are: length 66 mm, width 15 mm, height 13.5 mm

The last of the three WW I vintage clips which came from Romania. I'm not 100% sure whether this clip has really been made by Perry & Co. Ltd. of Birmingham or a different, at least to me unknown so far, English company which also used the letter "P". The clip from Perry & Co. shown on 7.62x54r.net shows a quite different arrangement and font (plus a date stamping lacking here) of the stamping - hence my doubts about the exact origin of this clip.

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GERMAN EMPIRE

DEUTSCHE WAFFEN- UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN A.G. - updated

Got some more - now they're five!

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DEUTSCHE WAFFEN- UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN A.G. - updated (continued)

These new "D.M." marked clips came with an original box of DWM-made 7.62x54R ammunition of 1917 vintage. Box has a tapered shape. Label reads as: "15 cartridges cal. 7.62 mm on clips for the Russian 3-line rifle".

BTW - the rounds have to be arranged as a "pyramid" (with the middle round as the highest), otherwise the loaded clips won't fit into the box. So this suggests that the soldiers in WW I really used this arrangement of the cartridges on the clip, because for sure they didn't "re-arrange" them before use.

[zeebill]

I don't recall any of the East German stock of 7.62x54 being sold over here, every other DDR item was back in the 90's, and some gallery loads stuff. Could have been some that I just missed seeing, I know the DDR provided me with some very nice AK47 items. Very nice pictures, I have a box of assorted clips someplace, mostly Russian, Izhevsk, I bought 100's of them 20 years ago when they were cheap.

The East German ammo I got was in real nice blue card board boxes and while it looked OK and was well made I never shot such horrid crap! I down loaded all that I had left and never have bought anymore that I know of. It was cheap as crap when I bought it and that is what it shot like too, that is when it did shoot! Bill

[SA1911a1]

I can see that someone has a "clip joint". Very interesting post.

Now the question is which one(s) work better? I thought all stripper clips were terrible until I saw how they load in the Swede '96.

[qz2026]

You never fail to amaze me with your collection. I have never paid much attention to the stripper clips although I do have a tin of ammo around somewhere still in clips. Amazing that this is only 50% of them. Great post as usual

[steelbuttplate]

On the subject of strippers, I have found what works best for me using strippers...No stacking a certain way needed, with the muzzle pointed Up(gravity) slide the loaded stripper in, Using round #1 hold the round and lean it back til the rim is in front of round 2. Push the 4 rounds in with # 1, lowering the muzzle for the last one. The stripper should ping out. SBP, 61 Mosins and counting.

[joelvca]

I can add two varieties that I have not noticed mentioned yet, but I do not have any decent photos - I will try to take some soon.

Long ago I got a case of 1951-vintage Hungarian light ball (L, not LPS) on chargers, three to a standard Soviet box, in four tar-paper packs in the crate. The chargers are unmarked bright steel of the new/fingerless style. I have not fired it all, but all the chargers that I have thus-far tried are uniformly unusable - too tight and sloppily, not crisply, formed in the bends.

The other type is unmarked gold/yellowish (cadmium plated?) new style brought in from Poland by the Canadian distributor who found the Polish SVT bayonets (dunno if I may name non-sponsors).

As I said, I'll try to get photos to add.

Regards,
Joel