Would this be a correct model 12 riot gun?

[Jackson]

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I've got a deal pending in a few hours for a winchester model 12 riot shotgun with US stamps, but it's got a cutts compensator on the end of it.

Is this correct?

He's asking 600, and is willing to take a ruger mark 3, a few hundred rounds of 22, and a turk M38 + giving me 70 cash on top for it.

[Junk Yard Dog]

US trench Model 12's have the US flaming bomb ordinance mark on them, both barrel and receiver, they have a bayonet mount/heat shield also, I have not encountered one with a compensator on it. This one might be one modified for police use. Don't go by the stock, I have seen these stocks with both original, and reproduction US markings being sold at gun shows. I even bought one for my own model 12 trench gun that was modified to a pistol grip during Vietnam. That stock has also been refinished, way to light colored and poly looking. Real model 12 trench guns easily sell for over a grand, sometimes more than that, bird guns sell in the $350-$500 range, Police marked guns would be in the $500-$800 range, but only if they are clearly marked or have paper. This could have been built from a regular 12.

[Junk Yard Dog]

The receiver stamp looks correct, but these days such can be faked, check the barrel for the small bomb stamp.

[Junk Yard Dog]

[Junk Yard Dog]

Model 97 and Model 12 stamps, the bottom is from the Vietnam soldier modified model 12. Note that it is parkerized, originals like the WW1 era Model 97 I have there were blued.

[Jackson]

it has the marks highlighted, but i will be avoiding it as he's trying to change the deal to get even more for it.

[A J]

it has the marks highlighted, but i will be avoiding it as he's trying to change the deal to get even more for it.

I don't blame you. Any time someone I'm doing business with gets flaky, I walk. Good call.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Whenever I start to picture how the other guys hand would look pinned to the table by my knife I know it's time to call off the transaction .

[Celt]

Not sure I've ever seen one with a comp either.

[Junk Yard Dog]

I have, but only on some shotguns intended for hunting or police guns.

[rayjd2]

Pardon my ignorance, but those compensators look dangerous to use, I've seen only one other. I'd rather take my chances with a duckbill choke.

[A J]

Whenever I start to picture how the other guys hand would look pinned to the table by my knife I know it's time to call off the transaction .

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I used to work an industrial inside sales job, there were some customers who weren't worth keeping. I'd bend over backwards for the financially-strapped, small-time customer but didn't have a lot of patience for the few really bad ones. Generally, I'd take whatever a bad customer dished out to me. I'd make the sale and gladly take their money. Sometimes it wasn't worth the money.

On one occasion, I was helping a customer troubleshoot a piece of equipment over the phone. Someone in the background kept making disparaging comments about the questions I was asking in an effort to pinpoint the problem. I started to hear all sorts of insulting crap. Finally I asked "who is that person in the background?" The person responded "that's the owner of the company." Me: "OK. Please put him on the phone. I'd like to speak with him." When the clown answered the phone I told him I didn't appreciate his insults and if I hear one more, I will refuse to do business with his company.

There were many other times that a customer's demands and expectations exceeded what my company was capable of providing. When I was confronted with a situation like that, I'd politely explain that we're not the best choice. Yeah, I lost a number of decent sales, but in the end I held onto the really good customers and had very few high maintenance ones.